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From: Elfen Magix
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [linux-elitists] Browser fingerprinting]
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When you can figure out when and where a person is going to be from day/wee=
ks/months/years of tracking, then you have that person where you want him a=
nytime, anywhere you want.=0A=0AThus far from Browser tracking, you and you=
r activity can be tracked and your future actions predicted accurately, thu=
s removing what freedoms you may have. Your Spending Habits studied, and ad=
s put up to force you to look at to sway your mind into "I need that.... [C=
LICK ON BUY BUTTON]" In worse case sceneros, in using your smartphones, it =
can be tracked through GPS or through its radio wave propagation to where y=
ou are at any given spot, and ads tailored to that information depending on=
your habits and where they take you. It does not take much programming to =
rip through this information to the point you get a text message commercial=
every time you pass by a given store location, forcing you to stop to look=
at the message and then look around and see the store right next to you. I=
f you go in to even look around, then they got=A0 you. And you don't call t=
his a danger? Its subliminal messaging on the worse levels. and Subliminal =
messaging is illegal. You
call this being free? I call that being leashed.=0A=0AIf you think you do =
not fit this mold, then what about your daughter and her friends? When they=
get such a text, they will go into the store and if they got money, buy. T=
his is an attack on you, your family, your money, and if you do not see thi=
s as a threat, than you are no better than the rest of the sheeple out ther=
e - no disrespect on you, your family or other sheeple.=0A=0AThe hook is ba=
ited, and it is casted into waters, waiting to see who bites on it. Are you=
or your family members going to bite?=0A=0AWhen I wrote video games back i=
n the 1980s, I was told that the game has to be written so that nobody wins=
, because "No matter how hard you play the game, you are not getting your q=
uarter back!" For me at best, I used be able to play Battle Zone for 3 hour=
s on one Quarter, but I never got that Quarter back!=0A=0A~Fernando=0A=0A=
=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Ruben Safir .com>=0ATo: hangout-at-nylxs.com =0ASent: Monday, October 21, 2013 5:53 AM=0AS=
ubject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [linux-elitists] Browser=
fingerprinting]=0A =0A=0A----- Forwarded message from Ruben Safir rbrklyn.com> -----=0A=0ADate: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 01:04:19 -0400=0AFrom: Ruben=
Safir =0ATo: linux-elitists-at-zgp.org=0ASubject: Re: [li=
nux-elitists] Browser fingerprinting=0AUser-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)=
=0A=0AOn Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:28:09AM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote:=0A> R=
uben Safir writes:=0A> =0A> > I don't care if they adv=
ertise on Monday beauty products=0A> > because on Monday women feel verniba=
ble.=A0 What I care about is that they=0A> > track my daughter on her trip =
to school.=0A> =0A> You have this exactly backwards, imo.=A0 Neither my dau=
ghter nor I are=0A> under any particular _personal_ threat from tracking.=
=A0 =0A=0A=0AYes - you are actually.=A0 And being so tracked is for FARM AN=
IMALS and=0Aand extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free=
human=0Abeing.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> In that sense I=0A> sympathize with people =
who say "Who the f** cares?" about tracking,=0A> targeted ads, and so on.=
=0A> =0A> The mistake they make is the same as the one you're making.=A0 Th=
ey fail=0A> to appreciate that these things shape our culture.=A0 =0A=0A=0A=
That is someones error, but not mine.=0A=0A=0A> Even if (hopefully)=0A> my =
daughter has enough self esteem and personal strength not to be=0A> affecte=
d by these ads, she's still living in a culture that they're=0A> shaping.=
=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Jeremy Hankins =0A> ____________________=
___________________________=0A> Do not Cc: anyone else on mail sent to this=
list.=A0 The list server is set for maximum one recipient.=0A> linux-eliti=
sts mailing list=0A> linux-elitists-at-zgp.org=0A> http://zgp.org/cgi-bin/mail=
man/listinfo/linux-elitists=0A=0A-- =0ASo many immigrant groups have swept =
through our town=0Athat Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological=0Apro=
portions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998=0Ahttp://www.mrbrklyn.com=
=0A=0ADRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002=0Ahttp://fair=
use.nylxs.com=0Ahttp://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Softw=
are=0Ahttp://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive =0Aof articl=
es from around the net=0Ahttp://www.coinhangout.com - coins!=0Ahttp://www.b=
rooklyn-living.com =0A_______________________________________________=0ADo =
not Cc: anyone else on mail sent to this list.=A0 The list server is set fo=
r maximum one recipient.=0Alinux-elitists mailing list=0Alinux-elitists-at-zgp=
.org=0Ahttp://zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists=0A=0A----- En=
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt">When you can figure out when and where a person is going to b=
e from day/weeks/months/years of tracking, then you have that person where =
you want him anytime, anywhere you want.

Thus far from Browser track=
ing, you and your activity can be tracked and your future actions predicted=
accurately, thus removing what freedoms you may have. Your Spending Habits=
studied, and ads put up to force you to look at to sway your mind into "I =
need that.... [CLICK ON BUY BUTTON]" In worse case sceneros, in using your =
smartphones, it can be tracked through GPS or through its radio wave propag=
ation to where you are at any given spot, and ads tailored to that informat=
ion depending on your habits and where they take you. It does not take much=
programming to rip through this information to the point you get a
text message commercial every time you pass by a given store location, for=
cing you to stop to look at the message and then look around and see the st=
ore right next to you. If you go in to even look around, then they got =
; you. And you don't call this a danger? Its subliminal messaging on the wo=
rse levels. and Subliminal messaging is illegal. You call this being free? =
I call that being leashed.

If you think you do not fit this mold, th=
en what about your daughter and her friends? When they get such a text, the=
y will go into the store and if they got money, buy. This is an attack on y=
ou, your family, your money, and if you do not see this as a threat, than y=
ou are no better than the rest of the sheeple out there - no disrespect on =
you, your family or other sheeple.

The hook is baited, and it is cas=
ted into waters, waiting to see who bites on it. Are you or your family mem=
bers going to bite?

When I wrote video games back in the
1980s, I was told that the game has to be written so that nobody wins, bec=
ause "No matter how hard you play the game, you are not getting your quarte=
r back!" For me at best, I used be able to play Battle Zone for 3 hours on =
one Quarter, but I never got that Quarter back!

~Fernando
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ly: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;">

size=3D"2"> From: Ruben Sa=
fir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>
To=
:
hangout-at-nylxs.com
S=
ent:
Monday, October 21, 2013 5:53 AM
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Re:
[linux-elitists] Browser fingerprinting]
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 01:04:19 -0400
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om: Ruben Safir <:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com">ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>
To: :linux-elitists-at-zgp.org" href=3D"mailto:linux-elitists-at-zgp.org">linux-eliti=
sts-at-zgp.org

Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] Browser fingerprinting
=
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:28:0=
9AM -0500, Jeremy Hankins wrote:
> Ruben Safir <to:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com" href=3D"mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com">ruben-at-mrbrklyn.co=
m
> writes:
>
> > I don't care if they advertise on M=
onday beauty products
> > because on Monday women feel vernibable.=
  What
I care about is that they
> > track my daughter on her trip to sc=
hool.
>
> You have this exactly backwards, imo.  Neither =
my daughter nor I are
> under any particular _personal_ threat from t=
racking. 


Yes - you are actually.  And being so track=
ed is for FARM ANIMALS and
and extermination camps, but incompatible wit=
h living as a free human
being.




> In that sense I<=
br>> sympathize with people who say "Who the f** cares?" about tracking,=

> targeted ads, and so on.
>
> The mistake they make is=
the same as the one you're making.  They fail
> to appreciate t=
hat these things shape our culture. 


That is someones erro=
r, but not mine.


> Even if (hopefully)
> my daughter ha=
s enough self esteem and personal strength not to be
> affected by th=
ese ads, she's still living in a culture that they're
>
shaping.
>
> --
> Jeremy Hankins <lto:nowan-at-nowan.org" href=3D"mailto:nowan-at-nowan.org">nowan-at-nowan.org>=
;
> _______________________________________________
> Do not Cc=
: anyone else on mail sent to this list.  The list server is set for m=
aximum one recipient.
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> n/listinfo/linux-elitists" target=3D"_blank">http://zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman=
/listinfo/linux-elitists


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ept through our town
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br>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
//www.mrbrklyn.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mrbrklyn.com

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DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
href=3D"http://fairuse.nylxs.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://fairuse.nylxs.=
com
http://www.n=
ylxs.com
- Leadership Development in Free Software
/www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources" target=3D"_blank">http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/re=
sources
- Unpublished Archive
of articles from around the net
href=3D"http://www.coinhangout.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.coinhang=
out.com - coins!
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  2. 2013-10-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  3. 2013-10-01 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] you might never see this again
  4. 2013-10-02 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  5. 2013-10-02 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  6. 2013-10-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [fegshealth-at-fegshealth.pmailus.com: Hot Job from Connect to Care!]
  7. 2013-10-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] YA another reason not to visit
  8. 2013-10-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: who me? Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  9. 2013-10-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] webbrowser security
  10. 2013-10-04 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: who me? Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  11. 2013-10-04 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: who me? Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  12. 2013-10-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] sex at yale
  13. 2013-10-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cleaning my list of backlog posts out
  14. 2013-10-04 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cleaning my list of backlog posts out
  15. 2013-10-04 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cleaning my list of backlog posts out
  16. 2013-10-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cleaning my list of backlog posts out
  17. 2013-10-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cleaning my list of backlog posts out
  18. 2013-10-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: who me? Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  19. 2013-10-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: who me? Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP laptop 584037 001 ISO Linux\
  20. 2013-10-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] odd but interesting
  21. 2013-10-08 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] odd but interesting
  22. 2013-10-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] odd but interesting
  23. 2013-10-08 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] odd but interesting
  24. 2013-10-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] off the gird
  25. 2013-10-09 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] off the gird
  26. 2013-10-09 adrba-at-nyct.net Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] test message
  27. 2013-10-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] test message
  28. 2013-10-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: help help (laptop)
  29. 2013-10-10 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: help help (laptop)
  30. 2013-10-10 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] test message
  31. 2013-10-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: help help (laptop)
  32. 2013-10-10 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: help help (laptop)
  33. 2013-10-13 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: help help (laptop)
  34. 2013-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [abigail-at-abigail.be: Re: [MEETING] Dinner with Abigail]
  35. 2013-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [uri-at-stemsystems.com: ny jobs]]
  36. 2013-10-14 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: help help (laptop)
  37. 2013-10-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] KISS!!!!
  38. 2013-10-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning get together, and brunch
  39. 2013-10-15 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning get together, and brunch
  40. 2013-10-16 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Friday Morning get together, and brunch
  41. 2013-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tagged and stamped
  42. 2013-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Your new enemy and trackers in cheif
  43. 2013-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Skyline
  44. 2013-10-18 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Skyline
  45. 2013-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Skyline
  46. 2013-10-20 adrba-at-nyct.net Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SUSE/KDE Wallet. can't get online with wi-fi
  47. 2013-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SUSE/KDE Wallet. can't get online with wi-fi
  48. 2013-10-20 adrba-at-nyct.net Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] solved,
  49. 2013-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] solved, I think Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SUSE/KDE
  50. 2013-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] more MPAA actions and calls for copyright reform
  51. 2013-10-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] solved, I think Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT]
  52. 2013-10-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [linux-elitists] Browser fingerprinting]
  53. 2013-10-21 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [linux-elitists] Browser fingerprinting]
  54. 2013-10-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] solved, I think Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SUSE/KDE
  55. 2013-10-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [linux-elitists]
  56. 2013-10-21 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] anent the rant about products being junk nowadays
  57. 2013-10-22 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] solved, I think Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SUSE/KDE
  58. 2013-10-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  59. 2013-10-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  60. 2013-10-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  61. 2013-10-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  62. 2013-10-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  63. 2013-10-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  64. 2013-10-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  65. 2013-10-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  66. 2013-10-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  67. 2013-10-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  68. 2013-10-22 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  69. 2013-10-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  70. 2013-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  71. 2013-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  72. 2013-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  73. 2013-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fresh Striped Bass
  74. 2013-10-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A Tech Surge
  75. 2013-10-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Project
  76. 2013-10-24 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Project
  77. 2013-10-24 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A Tech Surge
  78. 2013-10-24 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A Tech Surge
  79. 2013-10-24 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  80. 2013-10-24 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] how to install libncurses and the like?
  81. 2013-10-25 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Project
  82. 2013-10-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing
  83. 2013-10-25 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing
  84. 2013-10-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Project
  85. 2013-10-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Project
  86. 2013-10-27 adrba-at-nyct.net Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] updates, mozilla and flash
  87. 2013-10-27 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] updates, mozilla and flash
  88. 2013-10-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] updates, mozilla and flash
  89. 2013-10-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] why we are screwed
  90. 2013-10-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] the end of all if us
  91. 2013-10-30 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] updates, mozilla and flash

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