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DATE | 2014-04-23 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] just for fun
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Check this out from Cario lecturing the US on free speech
Hirsi Ali is one of a handful of Muslim women who have left their home societies and set up shop abroad, in the United States mostly, where they spend much time trash-talking Islam as a religion of violence, hatred, and cruelty and violence to women. Of course, there are many Muslim individuals who exhibit those traits and even worse ones, but making Islam itself the problem and calling for an Islamic reformation in order to copy the Western trajectory strike me as simultaneously simplistic, insulting and just factually wrong.
The problem with this kind of hate-talk, especially in societies like the United States where anger against Islam and Muslims is high ****due to the Sept. 11, 2011 and other attacks,*** is that it creates an environment in which all Muslims become permissible targets of violent racists and hate-mongers; then it becomes acceptable to talk about other groups?like Chinese, Jews, Italians or Hispanics?in the same manner. The problem in the Brandeis case was that the university extended the invitation to her before knowing enough about her vocation of anti-Islamic hate-mongering and intellectual hooliganism. The honorary degree should never have been offered.
http://www.aucegypt.edu/GAPP/CairoReview/Pages/articleDetails.aspx?aid=556#
Fuck, the attack on 9-11-2001 was bad enough. The one on 9-11-2011 and other attacks by Muslims shouldn't be misunderstood.
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