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DATE 2016-12-06
FROM Christopher League
SUBJECT Re: [Learn] png data format
From learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Dec 6 09:56:29 2016
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Ruben Safir writes:

> damn
>
> so your saying that the bytes are being stored left to right and the
> array is right to left?
>
> hexdup corrects the order of them automatically by itself?

Yeah, something like that. That's why the commands `hexdump` and `od`
have options that tell them whether to interpret as *individual* bytes,
or 16-bit words, or 32-bit words, etc. I'm more familiar with the
options of `od` than `hexdump`, so compare these:

% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od -t x1u1
0000000 00 00 00 0d
0 0 0 13

% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od -t x2u2
0000000 0000 0d00
0 3328

% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od -t x4u4
0000000 0d000000
218103808

% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od --endian=big -t x4u4
0000000 0000000d
13

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Ruben Safir ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com=
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damn


so your saying that the bytes are being stored left to right and the arr=
ay is right to left?


hexdup corrects the order of them automatically by itself?



Yeah, something like that. That=E2=80=99s why the commands hexdump=
and od have options that tell them whether to interpre=
t as individual bytes, or 16-bit words, or 32-bit words, etc. I=E2=
=80=99m more familiar with the options of od than hexdum=
p
, so compare these:


% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od -t x1u1
0000000 00 00 00 0d
0 0 0 13

% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od -t x2u2
0000000 0000 0d00
0 3328

% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od -t x4u4
0000000 0d000000
218103808

% echo -n '\000\000\000\015'|od --endian=3Dbig -t x4u4
0000000 0000000d
13

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