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DATE 2015-11-06
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On 11/05/2015 10:33 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 11/05/2015 01:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>> How do you start Mailman? Where is the bin/mailmanctl that starts it?
>
> /etc/rc.d/mailman which unfortunately is piped through systemd.
>
...
> MM_CT=/usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab
> MM_CTRL=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl
> MM_PID=/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid


So starting Mailman runs the Mailman in /usr/lib/mailman/


>> what is in paths.py in the same bin/ directory?
>
> Excellent question...
>
> import os
> import sys
>
> # some scripts expect this attribute to be in this module
> prefix = '/usr/lib/mailman'


And paths.py is consistent with this.


>> Are there any lists with
>> public archives and if so, are there symlinks in
>> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/archives/public/ and where do they point?
>
> I have done the archives using the same software I wrote in 1996 but the mbox et al seems to be in
>
> www:/etc/postfix # ls -al /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/hangout.mbox/hangout.mbox
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 486238 Nov 5 11:32 /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/hangout.mbox/hangout.mbox
>
> www:/etc/postfix # ls -al /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
> total 8
> drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 4096 Oct 20 23:43 .
> drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 4096 Oct 8 2014 ..
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 daemon mailman 41 Oct 20 23:43 hangout -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/hangout
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 daemon mailman 39 Oct 20 16:08 learn -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/learn
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 41 Oct 20 11:14 mailman -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mailman


This is all consistent with an instalation with prefix =
/usr/lib/mailman and var_prefix = /var/lib/mailman


>>
>> Do the web server and the qrunners actually reference the same archives,
>
> I would prefer the webserver not to reach the archives that mailman archives at all,
> since my real archive is sitting on a remote postgres server.


And you've basically arranged that by making the archive public as far
as mailman is concerned and telling apache

Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/archives/public/

so at least the default public archive URLs point somewhere where the
archives presumably aren't.

You might consider setting PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL in mm_cfg.py to something like

PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://remote.server/whatever/%(listname)s'

You might also avoid this whole patching issue by teaching your archiver
to decode base64 and quoted-printable encoded message bodies.

I still wonder about

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/cgi-bin/

If you do for example

strings /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/cgi-bin/admin | grep mailman

do you see paths like /usr/lib/mailman and /usr/lib/mailman/scripts?

If so, you are probably OK. If they point at some /usr/local/apache
directory, you may have issues with the web UI manipulating totally
different list objects than the real ones.

--
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
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  49. 2015-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fun with FUD in the largest Washington Post
  50. 2015-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fun with FUD in the largest Washington Post
  51. 2015-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fun with FUD in the largest Washington Post
  52. 2015-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fun with FUD in the largest Washington Post
  53. 2015-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Libreplanet in Boston Next Year
  54. 2015-11-08 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  55. 2015-11-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Open for Comments
  56. 2015-11-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fun with FUD in the largest Washington Post
  57. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The race is on to replace your linux toolkit
  58. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  59. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  60. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Decent Linux Podcast this week
  61. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] True Love
  62. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Browser security and EFF
  63. 2015-11-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  64. 2015-11-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  65. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  66. 2015-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  67. 2015-11-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  68. 2015-11-09 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  69. 2015-11-09 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] serious iphone/objectivec problems
  70. 2015-11-09 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] serious iphone/objectivec problems
  71. 2015-11-09 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] serious iphone/objectivec problems
  72. 2015-11-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  73. 2015-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The Technology of Wishing
  74. 2015-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] another time and place
  75. 2015-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The importance and moral obligation to archive
  76. 2015-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] message from Jesus
  77. 2015-11-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] everything in the story has to be exactly on time
  78. 2015-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] RMS on Education
  79. 2015-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] situation worsens
  80. 2015-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Who snoops on Who
  81. 2015-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Salman Rushdie
  82. 2015-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Islam
  83. 2015-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [jkeen-at-verizon.net: ny.pm technical meeting on
  84. 2015-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Quick Cruise up the Hudson with the Smithsonian
  85. 2015-11-15 From: "ballantrae101 ." <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Quick Cruise up the Hudson with the Smithsonian
  86. 2015-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the Week
  87. 2015-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] FWIW for Michael et al
  88. 2015-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] jobs
  89. 2015-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] jobs followup
  90. 2015-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  91. 2015-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] windows 3.1
  92. 2015-11-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ransomware - attacking apache
  93. 2015-11-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] windows 3.1
  94. 2015-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] windows 3.1
  95. 2015-11-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] windows 3.1
  96. 2015-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [conspire] CIA chief Brennan hints new gov't
  97. 2015-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] could be done better if it was planned
  98. 2015-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bad Debt Collectors and Their Prey
  99. 2015-11-18 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] permissions in Debian packages?
  100. 2015-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] permissions in Debian packages?
  101. 2015-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] ms linux continues
  102. 2015-11-19 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ms linux continues
  103. 2015-11-19 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] permissions in Debian packages?
  104. 2015-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ms linux continues
  105. 2015-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Clips Notes
  106. 2015-11-19 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] permissions in Debian packages?
  107. 2015-11-19 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] permissions in Debian packages?
  108. 2015-11-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] permissions in Debian packages?
  109. 2015-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Handling dates and Time
  110. 2015-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Handling dates and Time
  111. 2015-11-20 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Could NYLXS, CCNY. LIU,
  112. 2015-11-20 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Could NYLXS, CCNY. LIU,
  113. 2015-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: eudyptula challenge,
  114. 2015-11-20 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Could NYLXS, CCNY. LIU,
  115. 2015-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Wastson on SuSE
  116. 2015-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Wastson on SuSE
  117. 2015-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the Week
  118. 2015-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the Week
  119. 2015-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Artificial Intelligence and Forward Chaining
  120. 2015-11-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux Job
  121. 2015-11-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] another job
  122. 2015-11-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] PHP
  123. 2015-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] this is the funiest thing Robin Williams never said
  124. 2015-11-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] this is the funiest thing Robin Williams never
  125. 2015-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Letters of Recommendation
  126. 2015-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [noreply-at-comsoc.org: New Course on Big Data 5-6
  127. 2015-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Firefox marketing on Flatbush Avenue
  128. 2015-11-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cheapbytes has been slacking
  129. 2015-11-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cheapbytes has been slacking
  130. 2015-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cheapbytes has been slacking
  131. 2015-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] in memorial
  132. 2015-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] security and tracking in the land of terrorism
  133. 2015-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] just a plug for our friend Amy
  134. 2015-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] private reusable rocket is a success
  135. 2015-11-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cheapbytes has been slacking
  136. 2015-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [conspire] CIA chief Brennan hints new gov't
  137. 2015-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Middle east Analysis
  138. 2015-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [conspire] CIA chief Brennan hints new gov't
  139. 2015-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Thanksgiving Present
  140. 2015-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [conspire] CIA chief Brennan hints new gov't
  141. 2015-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] A message for Thanksgiving
  142. 2015-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Eight bucks, no kidding!
  143. 2015-11-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Five bucks, no kidding!
  144. 2015-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Compiler Theory Class
  145. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Nice Jewish Girl
  146. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Larry Wall on Haskell and Java
  147. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Apollo
  148. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Sil;licon Valley Republicans
  149. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] new way to get interviews only through skype ??
  150. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The New Linux Journal in an app happy world
  151. 2015-11-27 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cheapbytes has been slacking
  152. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Five bucks, no kidding!
  153. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Systems Administrator Position
  154. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cheapbytes has been slacking
  155. 2015-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] losing the internet
  156. 2015-11-27 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cheapbytes has been slacking
  157. 2015-11-27 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Five bucks, no kidding!
  158. 2015-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The New Linux Journal in an app happy world
  159. 2015-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The New Linux Journal in an app happy world
  160. 2015-11-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] losing the internet
  161. 2015-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Decent Vorbis Radio
  162. 2015-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the week
  163. 2015-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] 30 thousand bucks, no kidding!
  164. 2015-11-30 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] ???? = question ? So what is the question (s) ?
  165. 2015-11-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Domination

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