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MESSAGE
DATE 2016-01-22
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 07:30:52PM -0600, Dave Thomas wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm the person who made the decision to require JavaScript on the site. We
> don't track you, apart from the session cookie. We use analytics to help us
> optimize the site. We do not have any advertising links.
>
> I'm sorry that JavaScript makes you nervous, but our site is the only way
> we can offer the package of the two. Even if we sold it to you, you'd have
> to use our site to download.
>
> Sorry
>
> Dave Thomas
> On Jan 21, 2016 4:33 PM, "Ruben Safir" wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 09:56:37AM -0500, PragProg Support wrote:
> > > Ruben,
> > >
> > > Thanks for writing with your concerns, but that's not true. We do
> > > not use any aggressive ad trackers at all. We do use Google
> > > Analytics to help refine our site design and provide a better
> > > experience, but we absolutely do not "track it all and track it
> > > high" as you suggest.
> > >
> >
> > Google analystics is VERY invassive but you have scripts running from
> > double click? Not theoretically, but as identified and disabled by
> > noscript
> >
> >
> > > Our new site redesign does require JavaScript, but that's for a
> > > better, more responsive UI/UX experience across multiple devices and
> > > platforms, as is required in this modern age.
> > >
> >
> > HTML works. IT DOES.
> >
> > The website as it is constructed however, does not. Should I send screne
> > shots?
> >
> > Anyway, can I but the books?
> >
> >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Pat the Gerbil
> > > support-at-pragprog.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > >I wanted both Antlr books but your shopping cart won't work without
> > > >allowing for doubleclick and few other nasty trackers, so it is
> > > >essentially broken with some passive-aggressive looping message about
> > > >how I can turn on javascript, if that is something I would like to do,
> > > >which is OBVIOUSLY something I do not want to do, hence the noscript
> > > >pluggin et al. Even with CSS turned off, the sight still is
> > > >fundamentally broken.
> > > >
> > > >You would think we never did shopping carts before the "track it all and
> > > >track it high" culture that seems to pass for common currency today.
> > > >
> > > >Can you sell me these 2 books in a normal fashion, both the ebook and
> > > >the paperbook?
> > > >
> > > >Ruben
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >ref: https://pragprog.com/book/tpdsl/language-implementation-patterns
> > > >http://www.antlr.org/
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >
> > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >
> > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
> > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >
> >

--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
http://www.brooklyn-living.com

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

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