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MESSAGE
DATE 2017-02-03
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] sad times for us all
https://www.fastcompany.com/3058251/the-future-of-work/why-learning-to-code-wont-save-your-job?partner=wired

Looking for job security in the knowledge economy? Just learn to code.
At least, that’s what we’ve been telling young professionals and
mid-career workers alike who want to hack it in the modern workforce—in
fact, it’s advice I’ve given myself. And judging by the proliferation of
coding schools and bootcamps we’ve seen over the past few years, not a
few have eagerly heeded that instruction, thinking they’re shoring up
their livelihoods in the process.
"More and more, "learn to code" is looking like bad advice."

Unfortunately, many have already learned the hard way that even the best
coding chops have their limits. More and more, "learn to code" is
looking like bad advice.

Coding Can’t Save You

Anyone competent in languages such as Python, Java, or even web coding
like HTML and CSS, is currently in high demand by businesses that are
still just gearing up for the digital marketplace. However, as coding
becomes more commonplace, particularly in developing nations like India,
we find a lot of that work is being assigned piecemeal by computerized
services such as Upwork to low-paid workers in digital sweatshops.

This trend is bound to increase. The better opportunity may be to use
your coding skills to develop an app or platform yourself, but this
means competing against thousands of others doing the same thing—and in
an online marketplace ruled by just about the same power dynamics as the
digital music business.
Related:

This Is What It Feels Like When A Robot Takes Your Job
Why You Should Plan On Switching Jobs Every Three Years For The Rest
Of Your Life
Can This Adorable Bedtime Storybook Make Toddlers Want To Code?
Are Robots Going To Kill Your Next Job Or Create It?
Geek Girl Academy Wants To Get 1 Million Girls Coding By 2025

Besides, learning code is hard, particularly for adults who don’t
remember their algebra and haven’t been raised thinking algorithmically.
Learning code well enough to be a competent programmer is even harder.

Although I certainly believe that any member of our highly digital
society should be familiar with how these platforms work, universal code
literacy won’t solve our employment crisis any more than the universal
ability to read and write would result in a full-employment economy of
book publishing.

It’s actually worse. A single computer program written by perhaps a
dozen developers can wipe out hundreds of jobs. As the author and
entrepreneur Andrew Keen has pointed out, digital companies employ 10
times fewer people per dollar earned than traditional companies. Every
time a company decides to relegate its computing to the cloud, it's free
to release a few more IT employees.

Most of the technologies we're currently developing replace or obsolesce
far more employment opportunities than they create. Those that
don’t—technologies that require ongoing human maintenance or
participation in order to work—are not supported by venture capital for
precisely this reason. They are considered unscalable because they
demand more paid human employees as the business grows.
Training Our Robo-Replacements

Finally, there are jobs for those willing to assist with our transition
to a more computerized society. As employment counselors like to point
out, self-checkout stations may have cost you your job as a supermarket
cashier, but there’s a new opening for that person who assists customers
having trouble scanning their items at the kiosk, swiping their debit
cards, or finding the SKU code for Swiss chard. It’s a slightly more
skilled job and may even pay better than working as a regular cashier.
"Universal code literacy won’t solve our employment crisis any more than
the universal ability to read and write would result in a
full-employment economy of book publishing."

But it’s a temporary position: Soon enough, consumers will be as
proficient at self-checkout as they are at getting cash from the bank
machine, and the self-checkout tutor will be unnecessary. By then,
digital tagging technology may have advanced to the point where shoppers
just leave stores with the items they want and get billed automatically.

For the moment, we’ll need more of those specialists than we’ll be able
to find—mechanics to fit our current cars with robot drivers, engineers
to replace medical staff with sensors, and to write software for postal
drones. There will be an increase in specialized jobs before there's a
precipitous drop. Already in China, the implementation of 3-D printing
and other automated solutions is threatening hundreds of thousands of
high-tech manufacturing jobs, many of which have existed for less than a
decade.

American factories would be winning back this business but for a
shortage of workers with the training necessary to run an automated
factory. Still, this wealth of opportunity will likely be only
temporary. Once the robots are in place, their continued upkeep and a
large part of their improvement will be automated as well. Humans may
have to learn to live with it.
High-Tech Unemployment

This conundrum was first articulated back in the 1940s by the
cybernetics pioneer Norbert Wiener, whose work influenced members of the
Eisenhower Administration to start worrying about what would come after
industrialism. By 1966, the United States convened the first and only
sessions of the National Commission on Technology, Automation, and
Economic Progress, which published six (mostly ignored) volumes sizing
up what would later be termed the "post-industrial economy."

Today, it’s MIT’s Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee who appear to be
leading the conversation about technology’s impact on the future of
employment—what they call the "great decoupling." Their extensive
research shows, beyond reasonable doubt, that technological progress
eliminates jobs and leaves average workers worse off than they were before.

"It’s the great paradox of our era," Brynjolfsson explained to MIT
Technology Review in 2013. "Productivity is at record levels, innovation
has never been faster, and yet at the same time, we have a falling
median income and we have fewer jobs. People are falling behind because
technology is advancing so fast and our skills and organizations aren’t
keeping up."
"There are jobs for those willing to assist with our transition to a
more computerized society . . . But it's a temporary position."

Yet it’s hard to see this great decoupling as a mere unintended
consequence of digital technology. It is not a paradox but the
realization of the industrial drive to remove humans from the value
equation. That’s the big news: The growth of an economy does not mean
more jobs or prosperity for the people living in it.

"I would like to be wrong," a flummoxed McAfee confided in the same
article, "but when all these science-fiction technologies are deployed,
what will we need all the people for?"

When technology increases productivity, a company has a new excuse to
eliminate jobs and use the savings to reward its shareholders with
dividends and stock buybacks. What would've been lost to wages is
instead turned back into capital. So the middle class hollows out, and
the only ones left making money are those depending on the passive
returns from their investments.

It turns out that digital technology merely accelerates this process to
the point where we can all see it occurring. It's just that we haven't
all taken notice yet—we’ve been busy coding.

This article is adapted from Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus: How
Growth Became the Enemy of Prosperity by Douglas Rushkoff, with
permission of Portfolio, an imprint of Penguin Publishing Group, a
division of Penguin Random House LLC. Copyright © Douglas Rushkoff, 2016.
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
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  88. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hackers and Honepots
  89. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Mozilla and DRM
  90. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] WebRTC coding in html5
  91. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] WebRTC coding in html5
  92. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] vim and the free software world
  93. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Robotics
  94. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Researchers use artificial neural network to
  95. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] power grids in peril
  96. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Neuronet theory
  97. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linguistics
  98. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Guess this painting!!
  99. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] lions and tigers and snow leopards
  100. 2017-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the Week
  101. 2017-02-10 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Microsofts new stratergy to beat linux | | I
  102. 2017-02-12 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] anyone know what is this
  103. 2017-02-12 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] anyone know what is this
  104. 2017-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] fellowship positition
  105. 2017-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget
  106. 2017-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump Economics and Lou Costello teaches about a
  107. 2017-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Guess this painting!!
  108. 2017-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Name the artist and the work..
  109. 2017-02-13 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #290 - Interview at FOSDEM
  110. 2017-02-01 Dirk Jagdmann <doj-at-cubic.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Passing encrypted base64 encoded value via href
  111. 2017-02-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Guess this painting!!
  112. 2017-02-13 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Guess this painting!!
  113. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Guess this painting!!
  114. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Guess this painting!!
  115. 2017-02-13 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS]
  116. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Patent Trolls Delux
  117. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Microsofts new stratergy to beat linux | | I
  118. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [isoc-ny] Fwd: EVENT TONIGHT: The Internet of
  119. 2017-02-13 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [isoc-ny] Fwd: EVENT TONIGHT: The Internet
  120. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [isoc-ny] Fwd: EVENT TONIGHT: The Internet
  121. 2017-02-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Guess this painting!!
  122. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Geological floods
  123. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Amature Radio
  124. 2017-02-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Amature Radio
  125. 2017-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Artificial Intelligence Gets Aggressive Without
  126. 2017-02-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Geological floods
  127. 2017-02-14 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <mat-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Tomorrow Is The Last Day for MAT Applications
  128. 2017-02-14 From: "IEEE The Institute"<tialert-at-ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The Institute Online: Can Amazon's Echo Device Help
  129. 2017-02-14 Charlotte Danes <charlotted-at-schoolingadvisor.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYLXS - The Free Software Institute
  130. 2017-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Just a reminder
  131. 2017-02-15 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <noreply-at-embs.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] EMBC Paper Submission DEADLINE is
  132. 2017-02-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget
  133. 2017-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget
  134. 2017-02-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget
  135. 2017-02-16 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] chew on this
  136. 2017-02-16 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Next Picute
  137. 2017-02-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Next Picture
  138. 2017-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget
  139. 2017-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget
  140. 2017-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Next Picture
  141. 2017-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Sherry
  142. 2017-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Name the Artist and the Work
  143. 2017-02-16 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget: | | it was not wasted !
  144. 2017-02-16 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget: | | RS: I thought you were an OpenSuse
  145. 2017-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget: | | RS: I thought you were an OpenSuse
  146. 2017-02-16 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget: | | RS: . Audience was about 70% male (
  147. 2017-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Next Picture
  148. 2017-02-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Next Picture
  149. 2017-02-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Next Picture
  150. 2017-02-16 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [isoc-ny] WEBCAST TONIGHT: The Future of Digital
  151. 2017-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Living with NASA
  152. 2017-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The MTA is so fucked up
  153. 2017-02-17 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The MTA is so f****d up | | Join the MTA and
  154. 2017-02-17 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [isoc-ny] WEBCAST TONIGHT: The Future of
  155. 2017-02-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] aptget: | | it was not wasted !
  156. 2017-02-19 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) QA & Tech Support Engineer (NYC)
  157. 2017-02-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Duplicity (2009 film)
  158. 2017-02-20 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #291 - FOSDEM videos
  159. 2017-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] movie of the week
  160. 2017-02-21 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] technologywith fossils
  161. 2017-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] exo-planets
  162. 2017-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] in other news
  163. 2017-02-22 Nicholas Rodin <nikbbwil-at-icloud.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] in other news
  164. 2017-02-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] in other news
  165. 2017-02-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] in other news
  166. 2017-02-22 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] February social meeting
  167. 2017-02-23 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] | | | Nick: You cannot be removed without
  168. 2017-02-23 Nicholas Rodin <nikbbwil-at-icloud.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] | | | Nick: You cannot be removed without
  169. 2017-02-23 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] | | | Nick: I get way TOO many emails TO both
  170. 2017-02-23 Nicholas Rodin <nikbbwil-at-icloud.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] | | | Nick: I get way TOO many emails TO both
  171. 2017-02-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] | | | Nick: I get way TOO many emails TO both
  172. 2017-02-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] | | | Nick: I get way TOO many emails TO both
  173. 2017-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] decision making tree for a euler walk
  174. 2017-02-24 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <noreply-at-embs.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Your EMB Weekly Newsletter is HERE!!!!
  175. 2017-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Peer Review
  176. 2017-02-27 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] February social meeting + upcoming
  177. 2017-02-28 From: "IEEE The Institute"<tialert-at-ieee.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The Institute Online: Straight Out of Sci-Fi,
  178. 2017-02-28 Don Brinkman <Don.Brinkman-at-gov.ab.ca> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] visit

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