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MESSAGE
DATE 2017-04-09
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Response to insanity over healthcare debate
In response the article:

Mark Meadows Wants the AHCA to Take Even More from the Poor
https://epeak.info/2017/04/08/mark-meadows-wants-the-ahca-to-take-even-more-from-the-poor/


Frankly, the author, Justin Miller written April 6, 2017
also published on
http://prospect.org/article/mark-meadows-would-make-gop-giant-reverse-robin-hood-wealth-transfer-even-bigger

Justin Miller doesn't understand even the beginning of healthcare costs
and economics and what is driving healthcare costs through the roof.

Justin Miller believes in a world where we have a fixed amount of
resources and that all prices and resources can be divided up between
rich and poor. And healthcare doesn't work anything like that.

He writes:
Meadows now calls for a plan that allows states
to do away with two of the core ACA protections
that the AHCA had previously left untouched. As
Margot Sanger-Katz explains in an excellent piece
at The Upshot: First, states could rescind the
essential health benefits component that requires
providers to cover some basic benefits, including
prescription drugs, maternity care, mental health
services, and hospitalization. Second, states could
effectively nullify protections for people with
preexisting conditions by getting rid of community
rating, a provision that requires insurers to charge
the same rate for everyone of the same age.

The result of this proposal, Sanger-Katz writes,
would be devastating—while a cancer patient may
still be able to get health insurance, it could
very well not cover chemotherapy treatment and
would cost many times more than that of a healthy
person. “Only cancer patients with extraordinary
financial resources and little interest in the
fine print would sign up,” Sanger-Katz writes.
Republicans would likely be able to point to lower
premiums because the only people who could afford
coverage would be those with a perfect bill of
health—and even then, their plans would likely be
very stingy.


He obvious has ignored the basic facts about healthcare, especially as
it affects the working poor. The Poor will get their chemotherapy
anyway through medicaid or state hospitals. The really question is how
is it that the costs for healthcare keep escalating at a breakneck pace
while supposedly we have all these protections in place designed to keep
the costs under control, like the insurance mandate, and the age/class
pricing protection.

The answer is because the PBMs and the insurance companies don't give a
shit. It makes no difference to them to raise the price on a specific
group of preexisting conditions, or increasing the rates on the entire
class. In FACT. raising the rate on the entire class is BETTER for them
because everyone by law has to pay, and they don't have to deal with the
moral issue of raising prices on just cancer costs. But the real
question here is, and this is the pink elephant in the room, why does
Cancer Treatment Cost so much in the first place? The answer for this
is EXTORTION. And Miller has joined the extortion racket... yelling
Cancer Cancer Cancer... death to the poor... over and over again. What
is really needed is that buyers need to stop paying those outrageous
prices for Cancer Treatments... PERIOD.

And that is true for a whole crop of other diseases as well. It is high
time to reduce the cost of healthcare, and that requires that people
stop paying for it. Until we are willing to say, no, we will not pay
that price for cancer treatment, until people are no longer subsidized
for treatments that they can not afford, and that nobody can reasonably
afford, we will continue with a healthcare system that will SQUEEZE
EVERY LAST CENT it can from the whole of the American Public. If this
continues, the only people who will be able to afford ANY healthcare
will be the ultra rich.

This is not just true for Cancer, but also for Diabetes, High Blood
Presure, Giving Birth,, the measles, broken bones, etc etc etc. There
is no end to it.

As it is, the "Insurance" companies pay for NOTHING. Copays and
deductibles pay for the COMPLETE reimbursement to healthcare facilities
for the vast majority of procedures. And those are being pushed to
market rates, which is the cost that the buyer would have to pay if
there was NO coverage, because supply and demand is supply and demand,
so these insurance companies push that copay right up to the supply and
demand curve and POCKET the rest.

The only means of reducing healthcare costs is to get the third party
payers out of the way. If Grandma doesn't want to pay $900 a MONTH for
her diabetic drugs, that is Grandma's right! The whole pricing
structure needs to collapse. And the insurance mandate GUARANTEES a
steady and inevitable rise in healthcare costs to the highest rate
possible without causing a total collapse of the US economy.

... or maybe not. What does Aetna and CVS/Caremark care about the US
economy...


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  114. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Nikki Haley - Your next candidate for President?
  115. 2017-04-03 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Settlers of Catan (Brooklyn Version)
  116. 2017-04-03 Pharmacist e-Link <communications-at-pharmacistelink.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Hidden Monopolies That Raise Drug Prices |
  117. 2017-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Privacy and Optimum
  118. 2017-04-02 eminker-at-gmail.com Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  119. 2017-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Privacy and Optimum
  120. 2017-04-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  121. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] list of darknet markets
  122. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] For this we have time for Life in Prision
  123. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  124. 2017-04-05 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: [manjaro-dev] How Manjaro Can Evolve
  125. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  126. 2017-04-05 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  127. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Jerusalem
  128. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Jerusalem
  129. 2017-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Spring Bombs
  130. 2017-04-05 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] May 1 ny.pm technical meeting: Mark Overmeer on
  131. 2017-04-05 From: "Deutsch, Chaim" <CDeutsch-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] THE DEUTSCH REPORT: News From Councilman Chaim
  132. 2017-04-05 Mathew Shires <mathew.shires-at-nqc.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Ekiga-list] Phone Number instead of SIP address?
  133. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  134. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] For this we have time for Life in Prision
  135. 2017-04-07 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [isoc-ny] VIDEO: Internet Privacy Technology and
  136. 2017-04-03 Pharmacist e-Link <communications-at-pharmacistelink.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Hidden Monopolies That Raise Drug Prices |
  137. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need a job that is not a pharmacist
  138. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Ariel found the info
  139. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  140. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  141. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] lastlog errors
  142. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Patrolling the Dark Net,
  143. 2017-04-04 From: "soledad.esteban" <soledad.esteban-at-icp.cat> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Course The Use of Phylogenies in the
  144. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  145. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Free Software in Biology
  146. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Free Schools?
  147. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Why you suck.... Obamacare
  148. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Response to insanity over healthcare debate
  149. 2017-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  150. 2017-04-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #298 - Perl Conferences and
  151. 2017-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Chag Simeach - Happy Passover
  152. 2017-04-10 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Chag Simeach - Happy Passover
  153. 2017-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] no more owner
  154. 2017-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] fsdhfdjks
  155. 2017-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  156. 2017-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  157. 2017-04-13 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?4oCYQ2hhcmdpbmcgQnVsbOKAmSBhcnRpc3Qg?=
  158. 2017-04-13 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS]
  159. 2017-04-13 Dann Pigdon <dannj-at-alphalink.com.au> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Main goals in future dinosaur
  160. 2017-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Main goals in future dinosaur
  161. 2017-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  162. 2017-04-13 Dann Pigdon <dannj-at-alphalink.com.au> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Main goals in future dinosaur
  163. 2017-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  164. 2017-04-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  165. 2017-04-13 From: "National Parents Organization" <Parents-at-NationalParentsOrganization.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Advocates: Let's Get Together!!
  166. 2017-04-14 From: "jm-at-missinglynx.net" <jm-at-missinglynx.net> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [lugip] Fwd: Senior Linux Systems Engineer
  167. 2017-04-14 Daniel Madzia <daniel.madzia-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Bringing Palaeontology to People
  168. 2017-04-15 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manjaro_Linux=3A_Philip_M=FCller?= <jonathon-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5Bmanjaro-general=5D_=5BStable_Upda?=
  169. 2017-04-15 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manjaro_Linux=3A_Philip_M=FCller?= <jonathon-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5Bmanjaro-general=5D_=5BStable_Upda?=
  170. 2017-04-16 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Pakistan PM says he is shocked by blasphemy
  171. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] movies of the week
  172. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  173. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The real AI transformation has taken root
  174. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The new excuse for newpseak
  175. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] neural nets
  176. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] neural nets
  177. 2017-04-17 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #299 - She's back!
  178. 2017-04-18 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  179. 2017-04-18 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  180. 2017-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  181. 2017-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Future Studies in Israel
  182. 2017-04-18 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  183. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] need feedback
  184. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Computational Mathematics in Biology - R
  185. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Computational Mathematics in Biology - R
  186. 2017-04-19 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] 3d images
  187. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  188. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] jobs
  189. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] jobs
  190. 2017-04-19 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] TPC-2017: Preview of talks is now available
  191. 2017-04-21 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Learn] jobs: state government of New York
  192. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Learn] jobs: state government of New York
  193. 2017-04-21 Manjaro summary <noreply-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Manjaro] Summary
  194. 2017-04-21 Manjaro summary <noreply-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Manjaro] Summary
  195. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  196. 2017-04-20 Center for Arts & Culture at Restoration <ietwaroo-at-restorationplaza.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Billie Holiday Theatre Reopens | Their Eyes
  197. 2017-04-20 IEEE Computer Society <csconnection-at-computer.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Cybersecurity and You - Hear from the Experts
  198. 2017-04-22 FarSight Data Systems <msh-at-farsight-data.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  199. 2017-04-22 Frank Greco <fgreco-at-crossroadstech.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [wwwac] #NYJavaSIG May 4 - Java on Mobile: Write
  200. 2017-04-22 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] libpng-1.6.30beta02 is
  201. 2017-04-22 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] New libpng ftp site at
  202. 2017-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  203. 2017-04-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  204. 2017-04-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Soft tissue,
  205. 2017-04-23 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #300 - 300th issue of Perl Weekly
  206. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  207. 2017-04-25 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: re: a variety of positions
  208. 2017-04-25 From: "Pat Schloss" <pschloss-at-umich.edu> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [mothur] Postdoctoral training opportunity in
  209. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Copyright Wars Orchastras 2011
  210. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Ignoring the local student
  211. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops
  212. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] IOT - Linux things
  213. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] docker updates
  214. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] feedback on my cv
  215. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] latex
  216. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Jobs - this time in Israel
  217. 2017-04-26 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops: | | "physical kill switch".
  218. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Pharmacy legal issues
  219. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops: | | "physical kill switch".
  220. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Nw York, New York, just like I pictured it
  221. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops: | | "physical kill switch".
  222. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] You Can Blame Pharmacy Benefit Managers for
  223. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Hidden Monopolies That Raise Drug Prices
  224. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Totally fucked
  225. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11, 2017
  226. 2017-04-26 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] robin on donald
  227. 2017-04-26 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11,
  228. 2017-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11,
  229. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11,
  230. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  231. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Hangout-NYLXS] Journal Club meeting?
  232. 2017-04-28 Mark Halegua <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  233. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  234. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  235. 2017-04-28 FarSight Data Systems <msh-at-farsight-data.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  236. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  237. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] death of culture
  238. 2017-04-28 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [isoc-ny] WEBCAST FRI/SAT/SUN: Space Apps
  239. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Make or break: continuous testing
  240. 2017-04-28 Gipson Pulla <gipson.pulla-at-oracle.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] MySQL Connector/J 5.1.42 has been released
  241. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] death of culture
  242. 2017-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Ohio LinuxFest 2017 Call for Presentations
  243. 2017-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] celmatix

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