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DATE 2017-04-13
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Main goals in future dinosaur
On 04/13/2017 04:41 PM, Mike Habib wrote:
> Sure, basic CT is an old tech, but things like nano-CT are relatively new. The main novelty, however, is the prevalence of imaging in paleontology. CT imaging may be old, but it hasn't been widely available to paleontologists until (comparatively) recently.
>
> --MBH
>
> Sent from my Cybernetic Symbiote
>
>
generally, i agree, and minconization of hardware has been mentioned in
discussions I've had.

Much of the debate relating to phylogeny involves the application of
static data which is processed by trained observers. This is where the
field has been at for over twenty years. Field workers find bones in
rock, and highly trained preparers try to separate the rock from
mineralized bone. Then paleontologists measure, scan and draw the
specimens, dividing observations into what is considered important
differentiation which are then processed through computational
algorithms, not much different from what is described above. But what
has happened over the last 20 years has been nothing short of
astonishing. Soft tissue and soft tissue remnants have been found in
Cretaceous era bone beds, and even Jurassic age fossils like the famous
German specimen of Archaeopteryx have soft tissue traces in the
surrounding rock. Hundreds of feathered dinosaurs have been found in
China, and now that people are looking, such specimens are now being
found the Canadian Rockies, the Gobi Desert and even in the collections
standing in museums worldwide. Proteins have been found in Tyrannosaur
bone tissue, and several Dinosaur mummies have been found which have
crops and soft tissue. We have extrapolated the color of feathers from
melanosome in feather impressions. One thing has become very obvious,
tearing the fossils from the rock is not always a good idea. Within the
rock surrounding bones is a huge amount of soft tissue information.
Scanning technology is expanding, and the use of CT Scans, and
Florescence techniques are literally shedding a whole new life to
paleontological research. Brain cases are a now a wide area of study
and the dream is to go from encased rock to 3d graphics printer, without
being destructive to the specimen.

What we need to develop, as time moves on, is the ability to not only
scan rock, but also identify likely fossils and attempt to classify them
by artificial intelligence, and remove much of the human factor. Can
this be done? Yes, and within a few short years we should have such
technology ubiquitously available. And with worldwide databases of
fossils, we should be much better and developing phylogeny maps of
species and remove much of the human bias that now plagues the field.

If we CAT scan a rock with a fossil within it, how can we identify the
fossil? This is an enormously important question which has an ethical
wrinkle. Most CAT scans are using proprietary graphics formats.
Getting specimens into an international database is going to require
ending the dependency of these private formats and to get them into
formats based on international copyright and patent free formats, that
is copyleft formats. The dependency on proprietary file formats for
scanning equipment is the biggest impediment of future software
development for the community. The effort to go from CAT scan to the 3d
modeling program, Blender, is just too difficult and even the legality
of tools is questionable. Development of artificial intelligence is
going to depend on patent free, and royalty free international standards
which allow for reading and manipulation.
From a technological perspective, consider the depth of the problem.
Even the simplest graphic recognition problem requires considerable
thought and application of theory. How do we discover and identify, for
example, a black circle on a white sheet of 4 x 4 inch paper? Engineers
have been grappling with this problem for decades and its solution is
the cornerstone for a broad swath of computational problems from
biometrics, driverless cars, facial recognition, and fossil evaluation.

The usage of image recognition software for evolutionary biology is one
of the largest areas of advancement and opportunity in the coming
generation of computational research and expertise. What drives this
is the technological breakthroughs in the scanning technologies, which
are getting reduced in size, cheaper and increasingly available to
museums and research labs. A few years ago a dinosaur mummy with soft
tissue intact was discovered in the Dakotas. It was termed “Leonardo”
and was scanned with several tools as described by its website:1
What kind of Xrays were used to look inside the fossil?

To quote their own website:

The science team used several different types of radiation to
create the Xrays of the dinosaur mummy. The first they used
was a water-cooled Xray tube. This is similar to what is used to
take Xrays of people, only it is about 5,000 times more powerful.
This kind of power was needed because it had to look through more
than two feet of rock. Even this wasn’t powerful enough, so the
team took Leonardo down to Houston, Texas were NASA made room for
him in a special lead-lined jet hangar at the Johnson Space Center.
While there, the science team used Iridium and Cobalt radiation to
look inside the fossil. ... The yellow container holds a small but
highly radioactive isotope. The Cobalt in particular was extremely
powerful. The science team had to leave the building and hide
behind another building to be certain they were safe from the
radiation. However, the most powerful radiation used in the study
of the fossil was used on Leonardo’s arm. A Linear Accelerator
fired radiation at the fossil at Stanford University’s SLAC
(Stanford Linear Accelerator Center) also known as the National
Accelerator Laboratory. Yes, Leonardo is important enough of a
fossil to have these kind of resources used in the research!

How was the digital image of the fossil created?

The Dinosaur Mummy was the first dinosaur to be replicated in an
entirely new way. Because the skin on the surface of Leonardo was
so fragile, if the mold necessary to make casts, or replicas, of the
fossil had been created in the same way it has been done for many
years, the skin would have been damaged or destroyed. This made the
traditional method of pouring silicon rubber on the fossil and
peeling it off out of the question. The science team had to come up
with another way. The answer was a new technology called White
Light Scanning. A grid of light and shadow was projected on the
fossil and special cameras recorded this grid and the surface of the
fossil in 3D. The resolution of the cameras is thinner than a human
hair, so that the digital information they provided shows every fine
detail of the original fossil. ... This information was then used
by a computer to control a machine called a rapid prototyper that
was able to make a perfect replica of the dinosaur mummy without any
possibility of damaging the original fossil.

They needed to ship the entire fossil, which weighs tons, from the
Phillips County Museum, in Montana, all the way to Texas to do scans.
In March of 2017, Don Brickman of the Royal Tyrrell Museum, in
Drumheller Calgary, Alberta told me that they had set up florescence
equipment in their labs to do 3d imaging. This is a complete
breakthrough in technology and we can expect that in the future that CAT
Scanners will likely become standard equipment in most labs. With the
discovery of so many soft tissue remains, the days of tearing up fossils
is largely over without first doing analysis of the possible soft tissue
remains inside the surrounding rock.

In 2011, SLAC did a wonderful lecture on the analysis of Archaeopteryx.
The presentation done by Uwe Bergmann walks through several types of
images, showing trace materials. But this leaves us with several
problems, the first being, what kind of image formats are being used to
image fossils in CAT scanners and other scanning technologies. How can
we prepare these images for analysis and for the analysis by artificial
intelligence. There are no standards. In correspondence with Ramon
Nagesan, the PhD resident at the Royal Tyrrell, he explains the
difficulty of currently working with CAT Scanners data. He wrote,

"The file type that is output from a CT scanner is a "diacom"(sic),
these need to be converted to either a jpeg or tif in a diacom(sic)
converter, and then processed into an image stack in a software
called "ImageJ". These image stacks are then uploaded to "AMIRA"
(FEI) for processing into 3D models. I'm curious to see if you'll be
able to streamline this process."

Dicom is a huge copyright problem promoted as “the internet of medical
information”. According to its standards page, “It defines the formats
for medical images that can be exchanged with the data and quality
necessary for clinical use. “3 It is controlled by The Medical Imaging
& Technology Alliance (MITA), a division of the National Electrical
Manufacturers Association (NEMA). They claim to be the leading
organization and collective voice of medical imaging equipment
conglomerate.4 They claim to represent companies whose sales make up
more than 90 percent of the global market for advanced imaging
technologies. They are not an open forum for digital standards but are
created as a profit center for a few select and well placed medical
device companies.

There are, nevertheless, some free tools to access some of their
formats. On the sourceforge network there is Open Dicom Viewer5 which
is licensed under GNU Library or Lesser General Public License version
3.0 (LGPLv3). It is a Java application (written in Java 1.7).
Another tool is DCMLinux 6, and it is released under the GPL2. It
promotes itself as, “a complete PACS system, free of charge. Its core is
an Ubuntu 10.04 system fully updated and it contains the DCM4CHEE as its
PACS server. In the near future it will contain many other addons such
as Weasis, Oviyam, Care2x, etc.”

There is an “OpenSourced” C++ library for dicom with java and python
hooks which looks promising for new developers. Called Imebra7, and
licensed under the GPL2, and it’s development is current. “The Imebra
SDK is a multiplatform, open source, C++ library for handling DICOM
files, both raw and compressed.” It actually has an impressive set of
features and looks like it is worth development. It’s main class is the
imebra::DataSet class and it is fully documented. It is compiled with
cmake. You need to include imebra/imebra.h, to your source files to
access the library. It uses uniqueptr and can open files like this
according to the official documentation:

std::unique_ptr
loadedDataSet(imebra::CodecFactory::load("DicomFile.dcm"));
// Retrieve the first image (index = 0)
std::unique_ptr
image(loadedDataSet->getImageApplyModalityTransform(0));

// Get the color space
std::string colorSpace = image->getColorSpace();

// Get the size in pixels
std::uint32_t width = image->getWidth();
std::uint32_t height = image->getHeight();

// let's assume that we already have the image's size in the variables
width and height
// (see previous code snippet)

// Retrieve the data handler
std::unique_ptr
dataHandler(image->getReadingDataHandler());

for(std::uint32 scanY(0); scanY != height; ++scanY)
{
for(std::uint32 scanX(0); scanX != width; ++scanX)
{
// For monochrome images
std::int32_t luminance = dataHandler->getSignedLong(scanY *
width + scanX);

// For RGB images
std::int32_t r = dataHandler->getSignedLong((scanY * width +
scanX) * 3);
std::int32_t g = dataHandler->getSignedLong((scanY * width +
scanX) * 3 + 1);
std::int32_t b = dataHandler->getSignedLong((scanY * width +
scanX) * 3 + 2);
}
}

Dicom has a networking layer in the specification, something that PNG
also made room for in its specification. This is a template for views
an image:
// The transforms chain will contain all the transform that we want to
// apply to the image before displaying it
imebra::TransformsChain chain;

if(imebra::ColorTransformsFactory::isMonochrome(image->getColorSpace())
{
// Allocate a VOILUT transform. If the DataSet does not contain any
pre-defined
// settings then we will find the optimal ones.
VOILUT voilutTransform;

// Retrieve the VOIs (center/width pairs)
imebra::vois_t vois = loadedDataSet->getVOIs();

// Retrieve the LUTs
std::list > luts;
for(size_t scanLUTs(0); ; ++scanLUTs)
{
try
{

luts.push_back(loadedDataSet->getLUT(imebra::TagId(imebra::tagId_t::VOILUTSequence_0028_3010),
scanLUTs));
}
catch(const imebra::MissingDataElementError&)
{
break;
}
}

if(!vois.empty())
{
voilutTransform.setCenterWidth(vois[0].center, vois[0].width);
}
else if(!luts.empty())
{
voilutTransform.setLUT(*(luts.front().get()));
}
else
{
voilutTransform.applyOptimalVOI(image, 0, 0, width, height);
}

chain.add(voilutTransform);
}

// If the image is monochromatic then now chain contains the VOILUT
transform

// We create a DrawBitmap that always apply the chain transform before
getting the RGB image
imebra::DrawBitmap draw(chain);

// Ask for the size of the buffer (in bytes)
size_t requestedBufferSize = draw.getBitmap(image,
imebra::drawBitmapType_t::drawBitmapRGBA, 4, 0, 0);

// Now we allocate the buffer and then ask DrawBitmap to fill it
std::string buffer(requestedBufferSize, char(0));
draw.getBitmap(image, imebra::drawBitmapType_t::drawBitmapRGBA, 4,
&(buffer.at(0)), requestedBufferSize);

Likewise there are copyright and patent issues with 3d printers. A
recent visit to Makerbot, the makers of 3d printers who’s offices are
located at 1 Metrotech Plaza, in Downtown Brooklyn, proved that they
have a rather large Tyrannosaur 3d model that they printed hung right
next to the receptionist desk. They have intense interest in getting
scans for printing and they are using, according to the presenter, Drew
Lentz, STL files ( StereoLithography ) and the Wavefront .obj file. 8
The good news about these formats is that they are both are open and
adopted by numerous free and proprietary software solutions. So
everyone is interested, but these systems are generally not talking to
each other. CAT Scans are the biggest problem as their graphics
formats are different from machine to machine and all are proprietary,
even secret formats at times.

Despite this, there is a growing number of CAT Scan and images in
archives which have been created and which are publicly available. The
University of Texas High-Resolution X-ray Computed Tomography Facility,
has DigiMorph.Org, which is, “part of the National Science Foundation
Digital Libraries Initiative, develops and serves unique 2D and 3D
visualizations of the internal and external structure of living and
extinct vertebrates, and a growing number of 'invertebrates.' The
Digital Morphology library contains more than a terabyte of imagery of
natural history specimens that are important to education and central to
ongoing cutting-edge research efforts. The Digital Morphology library
site now serves imagery, optimized for Web delivery, for more than 1000
specimens contributed by almost 300 collaborating researchers from the
world's premiere natural history museums and universities.” Of course,
copyright problems hinder this library, and it can benefit from a
copyleft license.



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  52. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  53. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  54. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  55. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  56. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  57. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  58. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  59. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have ever
  60. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have ever
  61. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  62. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  63. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  64. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  65. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  66. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  67. 2017-04-02 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Good links
  68. 2017-04-02 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Good links
  69. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have
  70. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have
  71. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  72. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  73. 2017-04-02 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Good links
  74. 2017-04-02 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Good links
  75. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have
  76. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have
  77. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  78. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  79. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have
  80. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] so this might be the sexiest women to have
  81. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  82. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  83. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  84. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  85. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  86. 2017-04-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  87. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  88. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
  89. 2017-04-02 FarSight Data Systems <msh-at-farsight-data.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  90. 2017-04-02 FarSight Data Systems <msh-at-farsight-data.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  91. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  92. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  93. 2017-04-02 hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com You have been unsubscribed from the Hangout mailing list
  94. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] posted thesis
  95. 2017-04-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the Week
  96. 2017-04-02 From: "New York Sun" <editor-at-nysun.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Legacy Liberalism v. Gorsuch
  97. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  98. 2017-04-03 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #297 - Teams and the Pull Request
  99. 2017-04-03 From: "IEEE ComSoc Meetings" <noreply-at-comsoc.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] IEEE GLOBECOM'17 Paper deadline extended to 15
  100. 2017-04-02 John Bowler <john.cunningham.bowler-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] libpng-1.5.29beta01,
  101. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  102. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  103. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  104. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  105. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  106. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  107. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] worth a look
  108. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] 8th ACM/SPEC International Conference on
  109. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] IBM unveils Blockchain as a Service based on
  110. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Defender of the DMCA now wants to protect your
  111. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Conservative Case Against Trashing Online
  112. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Internet Privacy Furor Is a Preview of the
  113. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] More than Just Another Anti-Israel U.N. Farce
  114. 2017-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Nikki Haley - Your next candidate for President?
  115. 2017-04-03 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Settlers of Catan (Brooklyn Version)
  116. 2017-04-03 Pharmacist e-Link <communications-at-pharmacistelink.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Hidden Monopolies That Raise Drug Prices |
  117. 2017-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Privacy and Optimum
  118. 2017-04-02 eminker-at-gmail.com Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  119. 2017-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Privacy and Optimum
  120. 2017-04-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  121. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] list of darknet markets
  122. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] For this we have time for Life in Prision
  123. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  124. 2017-04-05 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: [manjaro-dev] How Manjaro Can Evolve
  125. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  126. 2017-04-05 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Happy Birthday Ruben
  127. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Jerusalem
  128. 2017-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Jerusalem
  129. 2017-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Spring Bombs
  130. 2017-04-05 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] May 1 ny.pm technical meeting: Mark Overmeer on
  131. 2017-04-05 From: "Deutsch, Chaim" <CDeutsch-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] THE DEUTSCH REPORT: News From Councilman Chaim
  132. 2017-04-05 Mathew Shires <mathew.shires-at-nqc.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Ekiga-list] Phone Number instead of SIP address?
  133. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  134. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] For this we have time for Life in Prision
  135. 2017-04-07 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [isoc-ny] VIDEO: Internet Privacy Technology and
  136. 2017-04-03 Pharmacist e-Link <communications-at-pharmacistelink.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Hidden Monopolies That Raise Drug Prices |
  137. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need a job that is not a pharmacist
  138. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Ariel found the info
  139. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  140. 2017-04-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  141. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] lastlog errors
  142. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Patrolling the Dark Net,
  143. 2017-04-04 From: "soledad.esteban" <soledad.esteban-at-icp.cat> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Course The Use of Phylogenies in the
  144. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  145. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Free Software in Biology
  146. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Free Schools?
  147. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Why you suck.... Obamacare
  148. 2017-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Response to insanity over healthcare debate
  149. 2017-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] free desktop SUCKS
  150. 2017-04-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #298 - Perl Conferences and
  151. 2017-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Chag Simeach - Happy Passover
  152. 2017-04-10 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Chag Simeach - Happy Passover
  153. 2017-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] no more owner
  154. 2017-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] fsdhfdjks
  155. 2017-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  156. 2017-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  157. 2017-04-13 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?4oCYQ2hhcmdpbmcgQnVsbOKAmSBhcnRpc3Qg?=
  158. 2017-04-13 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS]
  159. 2017-04-13 Dann Pigdon <dannj-at-alphalink.com.au> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Main goals in future dinosaur
  160. 2017-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Main goals in future dinosaur
  161. 2017-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  162. 2017-04-13 Dann Pigdon <dannj-at-alphalink.com.au> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Main goals in future dinosaur
  163. 2017-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  164. 2017-04-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  165. 2017-04-13 From: "National Parents Organization" <Parents-at-NationalParentsOrganization.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Advocates: Let's Get Together!!
  166. 2017-04-14 From: "jm-at-missinglynx.net" <jm-at-missinglynx.net> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [lugip] Fwd: Senior Linux Systems Engineer
  167. 2017-04-14 Daniel Madzia <daniel.madzia-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [dinosaur] Bringing Palaeontology to People
  168. 2017-04-15 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manjaro_Linux=3A_Philip_M=FCller?= <jonathon-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5Bmanjaro-general=5D_=5BStable_Upda?=
  169. 2017-04-15 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manjaro_Linux=3A_Philip_M=FCller?= <jonathon-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5Bmanjaro-general=5D_=5BStable_Upda?=
  170. 2017-04-16 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Pakistan PM says he is shocked by blasphemy
  171. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] movies of the week
  172. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  173. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The real AI transformation has taken root
  174. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The new excuse for newpseak
  175. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] neural nets
  176. 2017-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] neural nets
  177. 2017-04-17 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #299 - She's back!
  178. 2017-04-18 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  179. 2017-04-18 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  180. 2017-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  181. 2017-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Future Studies in Israel
  182. 2017-04-18 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Guess this artwork
  183. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] need feedback
  184. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Computational Mathematics in Biology - R
  185. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Computational Mathematics in Biology - R
  186. 2017-04-19 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] 3d images
  187. 2017-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Movie of the week
  188. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] jobs
  189. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] jobs
  190. 2017-04-19 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] TPC-2017: Preview of talks is now available
  191. 2017-04-21 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Learn] jobs: state government of New York
  192. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Learn] jobs: state government of New York
  193. 2017-04-21 Manjaro summary <noreply-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Manjaro] Summary
  194. 2017-04-21 Manjaro summary <noreply-at-manjaro.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Manjaro] Summary
  195. 2017-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  196. 2017-04-20 Center for Arts & Culture at Restoration <ietwaroo-at-restorationplaza.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Billie Holiday Theatre Reopens | Their Eyes
  197. 2017-04-20 IEEE Computer Society <csconnection-at-computer.org> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Cybersecurity and You - Hear from the Experts
  198. 2017-04-22 FarSight Data Systems <msh-at-farsight-data.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  199. 2017-04-22 Frank Greco <fgreco-at-crossroadstech.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [wwwac] #NYJavaSIG May 4 - Java on Mobile: Write
  200. 2017-04-22 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] libpng-1.6.30beta02 is
  201. 2017-04-22 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] New libpng ftp site at
  202. 2017-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  203. 2017-04-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  204. 2017-04-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Soft tissue,
  205. 2017-04-23 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #300 - 300th issue of Perl Weekly
  206. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] More trademark problems ... again
  207. 2017-04-25 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: re: a variety of positions
  208. 2017-04-25 From: "Pat Schloss" <pschloss-at-umich.edu> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] [mothur] Postdoctoral training opportunity in
  209. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Copyright Wars Orchastras 2011
  210. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Ignoring the local student
  211. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops
  212. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] IOT - Linux things
  213. 2017-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] docker updates
  214. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] feedback on my cv
  215. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] latex
  216. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Jobs - this time in Israel
  217. 2017-04-26 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops: | | "physical kill switch".
  218. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Pharmacy legal issues
  219. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops: | | "physical kill switch".
  220. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Nw York, New York, just like I pictured it
  221. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Linux Laptops: | | "physical kill switch".
  222. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] You Can Blame Pharmacy Benefit Managers for
  223. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] The Hidden Monopolies That Raise Drug Prices
  224. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] Totally fucked
  225. 2017-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11, 2017
  226. 2017-04-26 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout of NYLXS] robin on donald
  227. 2017-04-26 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11,
  228. 2017-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11,
  229. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] I need 5 volunteers for Thursday, May 11,
  230. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  231. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] [Hangout-NYLXS] Journal Club meeting?
  232. 2017-04-28 Mark Halegua <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
  233. 2017-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] NYLXS Journal
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