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DATE 2017-11-21
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] icu - run both versions
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:14:11AM +0100, Xan wrote:
> +1
> Always use packages. It's my experience


Its wrong in this case because the packages are broken. There isno
place for absolutes in IT

In this case, what I wrote is correct and it will NEVER create a
problem, however, when you inisist on downgrading icu ou break one set
of applications, and when you run the current version you break another
set of programs.


The ICU library is a font library. It has no impact on the core
stability but it did screw up a litney of programs including postfix.

If the packages were built correctly to begin with, the ICU upgrade
would had triggered a litney conflicts, and it didn't. It is common,
especially for developers to have multiple versions of libraries. I
have three versions of GCC alone in order tocompile different AI
projects that I wrote. There are mutple perl versions as well because
of different tools needing versions which had depaciated calls. Same
with Glib and gnome.

Additionally, package management completely fails wen you are doing
development work.


>
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 07:10:58 -0300
> Chris Cromer ha escrit:
>
> > Please do not follow this advice. By untarring another version into the
> > system, pacman cannot track the changes. This can cause conflicts and
> > errors in future upgrades. He temporarily fixed it, but this can cause even
> > more problems in the future.
> >
> > Chris Cromer
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2017 3:32 AM, "Fungi4All" wrote:
> >
> > > From: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
> > >
> > > To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org
> > >
> > > wget https://mirror.netcologne.de/archlinux/core/os/x86_64/icu-
> > > 59.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
> > > sudo tar -C / -Jxvf icu-59.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz usr
> > > and done
> > >
> > >
> > > when they fix it in the packages, great
> > > you can have both libraries and let ld.so do its magic
> > > For some reason arch never has multiple libraries for this kind of problem
> > > don't remove either version of icu
> > >
> > > Are you responding to someone or a specific problem? On the artix rep.
> > > there is icu 60.1-1, why should someone
> > > pick 59.1-2 from Arch? Is it possible that in Arch-testing there is the
> > > same?
> > >
> > >

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