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DATE 2019-10-10
FROM Jean Louis
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposal to remove the off-topic,
* Alexandre François Garreau [2019-10-10 07:24]:
> You seem to be pretty upset. You know, we can discuss that in a rigorous,
> factual and rigorous way off-lists, before you calm down a bit, and then see
> what to do. That’s surely the better for both of sides, especially rms’ one.
>
> I’ll answer more in detail later.

Sure I am upset that defamation and slander of RMS is going on on his
own web pages!

I am not upset of defamation and slander outside of GNU.ORG domain. I
am upset that it is going on by funding from FSF, on the GUIX.GNU.ORG
and GNU.ORG domains.

That is the subject.

If those people would not bring hatred in community, biased
generalizations, I would not say anything. If they would bring actual
facts, I would not say anything.

Before publishing any comment on their statement:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
I have contacted them on the IRC chat and by private email, as I have
not genuinely know what is going on.

So the question that I have made was to show me some facts "that
Stallman’s behavior over the years has undermined a core value of the
GNU project: the empowerment of all computer users. GNU is not
fulfilling its mission when the behavior of its leader alienates a
large part of those we want to reach out to." -- as to me that
statements sounds like blatant low life type of science fiction.

I have asked for facts. Ludovic Courtès told me it is abort() joke. So
it is not a fact, but his impression that RMS shall not make such
jokes, and that such joke is way higher priority then anything else
that RMS has done for mankind.

And because they are defaming and slandering by using money as created
by RMS, as he created GNU, then FSF, then people support FSF, and now
is this money used to defame and slander person who has done most for
free software -- and because of that OF COURSE I AM X$%*&#X UPSET!

It is a normal human reaction.

If I would not be upset, I would either not be aware of RMS's work and
deeds or I would be ignorant or simply hostile or similar.

I am human who is aware of RMS's works, deeds, contribution to the
planet and I am not hostile to Guix, in fact I came to them to first
ask them about facts, and I never knew at that momen that I would ever
be writing this much.

I am asking those people who are pretending to represent all of the
GNU project and who are defaming and slandering RMS[1] to step down
and resign, do your software hacking somewhere else, you do not
deserve funding that RMS is giving you. Ludovic Courtès, Ricardo
Wurmus, Matt Lee, Andreas Enge, Samuel Thibault, Carlos O'Donell, Andy
Wingo, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso, Mark Wielaard, Ian Lance Taylor,
Werner Koch, Daiki Ueno, Christopher Lemmer Webber, Jan Nieuwenhuizen,
John Wiegley, Tom Tromey, Jeff Law, Han-Wen Nienhuys, Joshua Gay, Ian
Jackson, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, Andrej Shadura, Zack Weinberg, John
W. Eaton, RESIGN and step down from GNU projects, disassociate
yourself, find another house for your excessive and uncrontollable
fear of the free speech.

Facts:
https://geoff.greer.fm/2019/09/30/in-defense-of-richard-stallman/
https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/
https://gnu.support/richard-stallman/Ludovic-Court%C3%A8s-Guix-is-accusing-Stallman-of-Thoughtcrime-on-his-own-domain-GNU-org.html


Jean

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  124. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  125. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  126. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  127. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  128. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  129. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  130. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  131. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  132. 2019-10-28 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  133. 2019-10-28 From: "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  134. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  135. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  136. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  137. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  138. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  139. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  140. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  141. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] I can't see the skull
  142. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  143. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU project _does_ discriminate contributors
  144. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  145. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  146. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  147. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  148. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  149. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  150. 2019-10-29 From: "Greg Farough, DBD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] IDAD 2019: Thank you for defending the right to
  151. 2019-10-29 Shorefront News <donotreply-at-wordpress.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [New post] First Reorganization in Half a Century
  152. 2019-10-30 Marcel <mve1-at-runbox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support for RMS and criticism of the
  153. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  154. 2019-10-30 Sandra Loosemore <sandra-at-codesourcery.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  155. 2019-10-30 Sandra Loosemore <sandra-at-codesourcery.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  156. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  157. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  158. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  159. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] CALL - PhD position in
  160. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  161. 2019-10-31 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hold the date for a November social meeting
  162. 2019-10-31 From: "Greg Farough, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Last call for Free Software Awards nominations:
  163. 2019-10-31 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’
  164. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  165. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  166. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  167. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  168. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  169. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)

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