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DATE 2019-10-12
FROM Mikhail Kryshen
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
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Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes:

> Hi Mikhail,
>
> Mikhail Kryshen skribis:
>
>> I'm deeply disappointed to see this. I always thought that the free
>> software community have strong and independent culture, and it's very
>> sad to see GNU maintainers, for whose work I have great respect, fall
>> for the moral panic that is being spread by news and social media
>
> [...]
>
>> This leads to dissolution of the free software culture and its
>> ethical values with the influence of media and corporations that are
>> hostile towards software freedom.
>
> I respectfully think that your interpretation is incorrect.
>
> Keep in mind that each of the signatories has typically more than 10
> years of experience as developer or maintainer of GNU (more than that
> for some.) They have dedicated a large part of their life to that, and
> they have worked a lot with GNU and RMS. So it really isn=E2=80=99t abou=
t what
> =E2=80=9Cthe media=E2=80=9D said last week or the week before.

Is it true then, that you intentionally and knowingly tried to take
advantage of the dishonest media attack on RMS and of its consequences?
Otherwise, how else would you explain the timing of your action? For
now I'd rather stick to my interpretation of you acting under moral
panic, as it is the least bad one.

> Perhaps you find our decision hard to understand, or perhaps you
> disagree with it, but remember that we have a different perspective.
>
> RMS created GNU, but GNU has long expanded beyond RMS, and free software
> has expanded way beyond GNU, too. We must keep it striving and reach
> out to those who=E2=80=99ve not yet joined us to share the software!

I share your values, I too want our community to be welcoming, inclusive
and harassment-free. The problem is not with the values you are trying
to defend, but with your methods. First the introduction of CoC and
then publication of the statement promoted fear, tension and hatred in
the community, alienated potential users and contributors, gave further
rise to moral panics (both "SJW" and anti-SJW, as you can see in the
discussions that followed) and made us more vulnerable to hostile
manipulation, as people under any moral panic are easily weaponized
against others (this is being widely used in politics all over the
world).

For a year now I've been promoting Guix at my university, and I'm
supporting it on close to a hundred of workstations there, it's too late
to back out, but I would not have started it today and probably would
have restrained myself to only using Guix on my own computer just for
technical curiosity, because my confidence in the future of GNU and Guix
is shaken, and the community does not look welcoming any more.

=2D-
Mikhail

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Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes:

> Hi Mikhail,
>
> Mikhail Kryshen skribis:
>
>> I'm deeply disappointed to see this. I always thought that the free
>> software community have strong and independent culture, and it's very
>> sad to see GNU maintainers, for whose work I have great respect, fall
>> for the moral panic that is being spread by news and social media
>
> [...]
>
>> This leads to dissolution of the free software culture and its
>> ethical values with the influence of media and corporations that are
>> hostile towards software freedom.
>
> I respectfully think that your interpretation is incorrect.
>
> Keep in mind that each of the signatories has typically more than 10
> years of experience as developer or maintainer of GNU (more than that
> for some.) They have dedicated a large part of their life to that, and
> they have worked a lot with GNU and RMS. So it really isn=E2=80=99t abou=
t what
> =E2=80=9Cthe media=E2=80=9D said last week or the week before.

Is it true then, that you intentionally and knowingly tried to take
advantage of the dishonest media attack on RMS and of its consequences?
Otherwise, how else would you explain the timing of your action? For
now I'd rather stick to my interpretation of you acting under moral
panic, as it is the least bad one.

> Perhaps you find our decision hard to understand, or perhaps you
> disagree with it, but remember that we have a different perspective.
>
> RMS created GNU, but GNU has long expanded beyond RMS, and free software
> has expanded way beyond GNU, too. We must keep it striving and reach
> out to those who=E2=80=99ve not yet joined us to share the software!

I share your values, I too want our community to be welcoming, inclusive
and harassment-free. The problem is not with the values you are trying
to defend, but with your methods. First the introduction of CoC and
then publication of the statement promoted fear, tension and hatred in
the community, alienated potential users and contributors, gave further
rise to moral panics (both "SJW" and anti-SJW, as you can see in the
discussions that followed) and made us more vulnerable to hostile
manipulation, as people under any moral panic are easily weaponized
against others (this is being widely used in politics all over the
world).

For a year now I've been promoting Guix at my university, and I'm
supporting it on close to a hundred of workstations there, it's too late
to back out, but I would not have started it today and probably would
have restrained myself to only using Guix on my own computer just for
technical curiosity, because my confidence in the future of GNU and Guix
is shaken, and the community does not look welcoming any more.

=2D-
Mikhail

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  43. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  44. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  45. 2019-10-12 From: "pelzflorian \(Florian Pelz\)" <pelzflorian-at-pelzflorian.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  46. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  47. 2019-10-12 From: "Pierre-Henry F." <contact-at-phfrohring.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  48. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposal to remove the off-topic,
  49. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposal to remove the off-topic,
  50. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  51. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF/GNU future without RMS, my opinion
  52. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposal to remove the off-topic,
  53. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposal to remove the off-topic,
  54. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  55. 2019-10-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposal to remove the off-topic,
  56. 2019-10-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  57. 2019-10-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: FYI - VC + Tech Summit
  58. 2019-10-12 Mikhail Kryshen <mikhail-at-kryshen.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  59. 2019-10-13 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
  60. 2019-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] this doesn't go through?
  61. 2019-10-13 Tirifto <tirifto-at-posteo.cz> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Thoughts on the Joint statement on the GNU Project
  62. 2019-10-15 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] FYI - VC + Tech Summit | | our Venture
  63. 2019-10-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Information on your web site mrbrklyn
  64. 2019-10-15 From: "Mehmet Inan" <mehmet-at-peace911.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Information on your web site mrbrklyn
  65. 2019-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This is an updated analysis of the MTA budget and
  66. 2019-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Information on your web site mrbrklyn
  67. 2019-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Information on your web site mrbrklyn
  68. 2019-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Excellent Lecture tomorrow
  69. 2019-10-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Career Development with IBM
  70. 2019-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Image Software for the web under GPL3
  71. 2019-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What is governance and to whom would it
  72. 2019-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  73. 2019-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  74. 2019-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  75. 2019-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  76. 2019-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  77. 2019-10-24 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  78. 2019-10-24 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  79. 2019-10-24 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  80. 2019-10-24 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization
  81. 2019-10-28 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #431 - The Perl 6 Weekly is dead.
  82. 2019-10-21 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #430 - Did you attend London Perl
  83. 2019-10-28 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #431 - The Perl 6 Weekly is dead.
  84. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Perl 6 Maturing
  85. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYLUG meeting tomorrow
  86. 2019-10-28 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  87. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  88. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] A GNU "social contract"
  89. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  90. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  91. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Expand your digital bookcase with the Humble Book
  92. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] If you've been wondering where I have been for
  93. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  94. 2019-10-29 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  95. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] References
  96. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  97. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  98. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  99. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  100. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  101. 2019-10-29 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  102. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  103. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  104. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] I can't see the skull
  105. 2019-10-29 DJ Delorie <dj-at-delorie.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  106. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] I can't see the skull
  107. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  108. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  109. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  110. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  111. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  112. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  113. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  114. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  115. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  116. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  117. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  118. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  119. 2019-10-29 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  120. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  121. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  122. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  123. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  124. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  125. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  126. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  127. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  128. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  129. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  130. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  131. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  132. 2019-10-28 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  133. 2019-10-28 From: "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  134. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  135. 2019-10-28 Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  136. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  137. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  138. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  139. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  140. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  141. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] I can't see the skull
  142. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  143. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU project _does_ discriminate contributors
  144. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  145. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  146. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  147. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  148. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  149. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org is premoderated
  150. 2019-10-29 From: "Greg Farough, DBD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] IDAD 2019: Thank you for defending the right to
  151. 2019-10-29 Shorefront News <donotreply-at-wordpress.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [New post] First Reorganization in Half a Century
  152. 2019-10-30 Marcel <mve1-at-runbox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support for RMS and criticism of the
  153. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  154. 2019-10-30 Sandra Loosemore <sandra-at-codesourcery.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  155. 2019-10-30 Sandra Loosemore <sandra-at-codesourcery.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  156. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  157. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  158. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  159. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] CALL - PhD position in
  160. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  161. 2019-10-31 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hold the date for a November social meeting
  162. 2019-10-31 From: "Greg Farough, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Last call for Free Software Awards nominations:
  163. 2019-10-31 ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’
  164. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  165. 2019-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)
  166. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  167. 2019-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  168. 2019-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  169. 2019-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)

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