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MESSAGE
DATE 2020-06-08
FROM Phil Stracchino
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The historical roots of our computer terms
On 2020-06-07 21:27, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 08:43:08PM -0400, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>> On the other, it is difficult to argue that the terms master/slave are
>> *not* problematic. I'm quite certain they were not *chosen* with any
>> malicious intent. Nevertheless...
>
> They ARE Masters and Slaves.. and it not in any way shape or form
> problematic.
>
> One is the MASTER, and the others are the SLAVES...that do whatever the
> Master says.
>
> That is 100% correct technological description


It is technologically correct, yes. It is *also* culturally problematic
in a nation which has deep racial tensions, a large portion of its
population descended from people brought here against their will as
slaves, and a vocal white-supremacist minority who'd like nothing better
than to bring it all back. The technical accuracy of the roles does not
refute this.

In my primary field, the database world, the term "replication slave" is
being widely replaced by "read replica". It serves the same purpose and
is no less accurate.


--
Phil Stracchino
Babylon Communications
phils-at-caerllewys.net
phil-at-co.ordinate.org
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  119. 2020-06-29 Prakhar Bansal <bansal.prakhar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] 02 July: openSUSE Leap 15.2 with GNU
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  122. 2020-06-29 Yusif Suleiman <yusifsuleiman-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] 02 July: openSUSE Leap 15.2 with GNU
  123. 2020-06-29 derrick <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to 'easily' upgrade openSuse 15.0 to 15.2.
  124. 2020-06-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to 'easily' upgrade openSuse 15.0 to
  125. 2020-06-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to 'easily' upgrade openSuse 15.0 to
  126. 2020-06-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] never ending pockets of the MTA
  127. 2020-06-29 derrick <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to 'easily' upgrade openSuse 15.0 to
  128. 2020-06-29 Alexander Vdolainen <alex-at-vapaa.xyz> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to 'easily' upgrade openSuse 15.0 to
  129. 2020-06-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to 'easily' upgrade openSuse 15.0 to
  130. 2020-06-29 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] I would have any app on my phone owned by the
  131. 2020-06-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] made in america
  132. 2020-06-29 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] 02 July: openSUSE Leap 15.2 with GNU
  133. 2020-06-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] totally fucked
  134. 2020-06-30 From: "Rijksmuseum" <rijksstudio-at-e.rijksmuseum.nl> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Masterpiece Meeting in Rijksstudio

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