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| DATE | 2020-07-09 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Israel's second wave
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On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 12:09:30PM -0400, mayer ilovitz wrote:
> just a few points:
>
Who's talking points?
> - talking/singing can also create the infectious droplets. A number
> of clusters got started in choirs. And coughs/sneezes aren't
> entirely predictable.
yeah so? That is not a talkin g point. That is how we remove
pathogencs from our bobie and we all created share activie immunity like
that. Without that, we would die.
>
> - covid is far more devastating than any flu if you are
> asymptomatie.
That is just flat out wrong. It is not even clear how it compares to
the influenza, but they are both in the same class in terms of
infectability AND mortality. We have just been spoiled by avoinding
deadly Flu epidmenics because of vaccination and dumb luck.
> And it's not clear how safe the asymptomatic cases
> are.
It is 100%$ clear because we have now MILLIONS of such cases record.
?Looking back, they noticed the number of cardiac arrest cases
> where 2-3x above normal during the height of the epidemic and far
> more fatal and are now strongly suspected to have been covid
> related. Plus "kawasaki-like" syndrome that was supposedly only
> occurring in some children was identified in at least one
> 20-something. They have yet to investigate if this was happening in
> other adults.
>
All of that is medicallly bullshit. The cardiac arrests is attributable
to plin normal factor such as failure to get protective health to
overall societaly stress and increased alcoholism.
Kawasaki has not only not shown to be related to COVID-19, but moreso,
it has been shown that under the best mdoles, COVID-19 would be only a
MINOR contributer to such a condition. The truth is that we don't know
what the fuck it is because it is SOOOO RARE that we don't really have
enough information to formalize a pathology.
> - in symptomatic people, infectiousness starts at least 2 days
> before symptoms. In the asymptomatic, they canbe walking around
> infectious for 1-2(+?) weeks. That's suspected to be how the
> epidemic got so out of hand.
>
This last paragraph is wrong and bullshit. It is bullshit because ALL
diseases have an asymtomatic stage where people are infectous, otherwise
the disease would never spread. ALL of them. Not SOME but ALL.
It is wrong because the infectous assymptimatic stage is about 5 days,
not 2.
> it's a case of when, not if, the epidemic restarts in NY.
This was already discussed. The fact is that NYC is largely saturated
with herd immunity from this virus because our government lockdown was
too lated, ineffective and useless.
Yes - we will get a second wave and it will be a mild blip.
It is places that had an effective lock down that will suffer from a
second wave, and a third, and a forth and so on forever until everyone
catches COVID-19
The lock down policy is a fraud and dangerous from the start. It can
not lead to a cure and it has destroyed the very social infrastructure
that we needed to combat disease. It was wrong from the start and what
you see in Israel, for example, is living proof of how stupid and
destructive it is. The lock down is worst than the affects of COVID-19.
Faucci is a hypocrite and wrong. He should be prosecuted for fraud and
treason.
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