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Hello,
I am another person=C2=A0 that did not like the show. It is indeed=C2=A0 to=
o much giggling, smiling. Too amateurish...
I personally think that the presenter (Emily) does not seem to grasp well t=
he science of paleontology. And why should she? after all=C2=A0 she is not =
a degreed paleontologist !. I think it depicts paleontology in a too ideali=
stic way i.e. you just dig here and there and there it is ! Museum quality =
piece ! The=C2=A0 reality is that field work is hard work many times under =
harsh conditions.=C2=A0

But I did like to see Native Americans=C2=A0 participating in the show, sho=
wing that they also do some paleontology in their lands.

Virginia



In a message dated 7/18/2020 5:29:21 PM Central Standard Time, tholtz-at-umd.e=
du writes:

Oh, grow up.
Having talked with Emily Graslie before, during, and after the filming of t=
his, there was indeed a conscious choice of representation in this show. An=
d the idea was that after fifty years of paleo-documentaries on TV, maybe h=
aving ONE that doesn't heavily feature white men from big institutions is o=
kay. Just one. You may have missed the fact that she tried to focus on rese=
arch not by the AMNH or Smithsonian or so forth. The MOR and the ROM were t=
he biggest institutions represented, and she tried to make sure many smalle=
r ones were featured as well (the Tate, Carter County, etc.).
Obviously this is more than your sweet little self can handle.
Additionally, Graslie states the premise from the beginning: it is to show =
something of process of discovery being made and the people making it in th=
e places she grew up. Full stop. Never claimed that this was a remake of Wa=
lking with Dinosaurs or Lost Worlds, Vanished Lives or whatever. Those alre=
ady exist. This was supposed to be a different kind of story.
And her attitude is a big feature on SciShow. Some people might like it, ot=
hers don't. Your mileage may vary.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:18 PM aviva wrote:
On 7/18/20 5:00 PM, Gregory Paul wrote:
> I am working on an article on paleoracism for Prehistoric Times.



please don't.=C2=A0 White men bad... we all know.=C2=A0 I saved you the tro=
uble now.






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2pt; color: #000000;">Hello,

2pt; color: #000000;">I am another person  that did not like the show.=
It is indeed  too much giggling, smiling. Too amateurish...iv>

2pt; color: #000000;">I personally think that the presenter (Emily) does no=
t seem to grasp well the science of paleontology. And why should she? after=
all  she is not a degreed paleontologist !. I think it depicts paleon=
tology in a too idealistic way i.e. you just dig here and there and there i=
t is ! Museum quality piece ! The  reality is that field work is hard =
work many times under harsh conditions. 

2pt; color: #000000;">But I did like to see Native Americans  particip=
ating in the show, showing that they also do some paleontology in their lan=
ds.

2pt; color: #000000;">Virginia

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In a message dated 7/18/2020 5:29:21 PM Central Standard Time, ailto:tholtz-at-umd.edu" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener">tholtz-at-um=
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Oh, grow up.

Having talked with Emily Graslie before, during, and after the filming=
of this, there was indeed a conscious choice of representation in this sho=
w. And the idea was that after fifty years of paleo-documentaries on TV, ma=
ybe having ONE that doesn't heavily feature white men from big institutions=
is okay. Just one. You may have missed the fact that she tried to focus on=
research not by the AMNH or Smithsonian or so forth. The MOR and the ROM w=
ere the biggest institutions represented, and she tried to make sure many s=
maller ones were featured as well (the Tate, Carter County, etc.).

Obviously this is more than your sweet little self can handle.

Additionally, Graslie states the premise from the beginning: it is to =
show something of process of discovery being made and the people making it =
in the places she grew up. Full stop. Never claimed that this was a remake =
of Walking with Dinosaurs or Lost Worlds, Vanished Lives or whatever. Those=
already exist. This was supposed to be a different kind of story.

And her attitude is a big feature on SciShow. Some people might like i=
t, others don't. Your mileage may vary.

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0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color=
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lear=3D"none">> I am working on an article on paleoracism for Prehistori=
c Times.



=3D"none">please don't.  White men bad... we all know.  I saved y=
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