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Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2020-08-22
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Learning from the Enemy Camp and the Value of
THis is the perspective of the radical left, communists. But in
Democracy, critism can lay bare real facts and inform, even when the
critique is by radicals.

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thenation.com
Cuomo Helped Get New York Into This Mess
By Ross Barkan March 30, 2020
10-12 minutes
The governor’s position on health care spending looked starkly different
a couple of months ago.

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As the novel coronavirus rages in New York, killing more than a thousand
and locking down millions, Governor Andrew Cuomo has emerged as the hero
of the moment. On television, he is everything Donald Trump is not:
calm, coherent, and blunt, in a strangely reassuring way. He is becoming
a #resistance hero. Some people are (literally) falling in love with him.

But the same Cuomo who is racing to expand New York’s hospital capacity
and crying out for more federal resources is quietly trying to slash
Medicaid funding in the state, enraging doctors and nurses, and elected
officials of his own party. The same Cuomo who holds press briefings at
a major New York City convention center, now the home of a temporary
1,000-bed hospital, presided over a decade of hospital closures and
consolidations, prioritizing cost savings over keeping popular health
care institutions open.

It’s the same Democratic governor—every liberal pundit’s tried-and-true
Trump antidote—who is doing damage to his state’s health care system at
the worst possible moment, in the eyes of the critics who follow him
most closely.

“Andrew Cuomo has repeatedly stated, over and over again, that New York
has excess capacity of hospital beds, that it’s too expensive and not
needed and we need to reduce spending. He said this over and over again
throughout his entire tenure,” said Sean Petty, a pediatric nurse at a
public hospital in the Bronx and a high-ranking member of the state’s
politically active nurses’ union. “If this budget goes through in April,
next year’s health and hospitals budget is going to be devastating.”

What’s striking to Petty and other health care experts is how Cuomo has
not backed off his plan to cut Medicaid, despite the horrific Covid-19
outbreak. Earlier this year, Cuomo empaneled what is called a Medicaid
Redesign Team to slash Medicaid spending in New York after a $6 billion
budget shortfall, driven largely by rising Medicaid costs, became
evident in late 2019.

Medicaid enrollment has been growing about 13 percent a year and is now
a $70 billion program in the state. More than 6 million New Yorkers are
on Medicaid, which has meant just 4.7 percent of the state is uninsured,
a historic low.

The Affordable Care Act has boosted Medicaid enrollment in New York.
Though Medicaid is a federal program that provides low-cost,
comprehensive health care to the poor, the state still picks up almost
half the costs, with county governments also bearing a small share.

Some of the budgetary abyss has been the Cuomo administration’s own
making: postponing Medicaid payments and failing in the past to iron out
inefficiencies like the state’s paying Medicaid costs for relatively
wealthy, private hospitals that don’t need the aid in the first place.
Despite his reputation as a big-government progressive, Cuomo has held
to a self-imposed caps on state spending and property tax increases,
putting additional strains on local governments trying to fund municipal
services.

“You want to target whatever cuts are necessary and target in the
smartest possible way,” said Bill Hammond, the director of health policy
at the Empire Center, a right-leaning think tank that frequently
analyzes health care spending in New York. “You want to go after
wasteful programs but you want to try to protect the needy, the
vulnerable and seriously ill and disabled recipients.”

Medicaid is a lifeline for so-called safety net hospitals, the public
institutions serving the urban poor in New York City and the rural poor
in the northern and western reaches of the state. These are the
hospitals on the front lines of the Covid-19 crisis. Struggling for
support in ordinary times—their patients usually lack the sort of
private health insurance that offers generous reimbursements—they are
now on the verge of collapse. Elmhurst Hospital, a Queens public
hospital at the center of the pandemic, is so overwhelmed that a
refrigerated trailer is stationed outside as a makeshift morgue.

“It’s obscene,” said State Senator Gustavo Rivera, a Bronx Democrat who
chairs the Senate Health Committee. “These are immoral actions that the
governor is taking.”

With the state budget for the next fiscal year due on April 1, Cuomo is
proposing to gut Medicaid by $400 million, part of $2.5 billion in cuts
he’s seeking over several years. So determined is Cuomo to slash
Medicaid spending that he’s prepared to reject more than $6 billion in
matching federal aid approved earlier this month because it would force
him to alter his austerity strategy.

If Cuomo gets his way with the state budget, many of the city’s most
besieged hospitals will lose money at a time when Covid-19 is
threatening to crash New York’s health care system. Central Brooklyn
hospitals, serving many of the borough’s working class and poor, could
lose $38 million a year. Manhattan hospitals could lose up to $58
million a year.

“The virus is just one illustration of why it’s important to have a
strong public health care system,” said Naomi Zewde, an assistant
professor in the Graduate School of Public Health and Health Policy at
CUNY. “The proposal to cut funding to public hospitals during a pandemic
reflects really poor decision-making.”

Cutting Medicaid has been a priority of Cuomo’s since he took office in
2011. In his first term, another Medicaid Redesign Team shrunk Medicaid
reimbursements, damaging the financially fragile health care facilities
that serve low-income patients. Hospitals, meanwhile, have been shutting
their doors across the state. Part of this reflects a national trend
toward consolidation and a movement to ambulatory and outpatient care,
as well as the inflation of medical costs and a change in federal
reimbursement formulas for Medicare and Medicaid.

What’s more, the state has lost more than 20,000 hospital beds over the
last 20 years. Cuomo, who has governed for almost half that period,
never advocated for any kind of expansion of hospital beds until last
month; he now says New York needs 110,000 beds, more than double the
current capacity. He has never been a forceful advocate for keeping
hospitals open; in fact, he’s empowered bureaucrats who’ve argued
aggressively to shutter them.

In 2006, under Republican Governor George Pataki, a commission
recommended closing more than 20 hospitals and shrinking and merging
dozens of others. Stephen Berger, the investment banker who chaired that
commission, would serve on Cuomo’s first Medicaid Redesign Team, which
cut funding for Medicaid during his first term. In 2013, Berger argued
that more New York hospitals needed to close, writing that “allowing
hospitals that have outlived their usefulness to close is a necessary
step in the transformation of our health-care system.” The safety-net
hospitals serving the city’s poor were losing too much money, he wrote,
and couldn’t be sustained anymore, especially with the rise of
community-based primary care.

That year, the Cuomo administration approved the closure of the 500-bed
Long Island College Hospital in Brooklyn, over loud community protest.
“Cuomo basically turned the Department of Health into a rubber stamp for
every closure certificate needed,” Petty said.

It’s inarguable that Medicaid spending in New York is—and will
keep—rising. At the same time, the Covid-19 pandemic is eviscerating New
York’s economy as tax revenue evaporates.

A spokesman for Cuomo, Rich Azzopardi, pointed to recent comments Cuomo
made in response to questions about his continued push for a $400
million Medicaid cut. “Yeah look, we have no money, right? Life is
options—the state has no money,” Cuomo said.

But it isn’t as if the state government has no options. Activists,
elected officials, and the New York State Nurses Association want Cuomo
to raise taxes on the state’s many millionaires and billionaires to make
up for some of the looming shortfalls. Cuomo could also increase
corporate taxes, further raise the millionaire’s surcharge, and
reinstitute a tax on stock transfers, which the state ended in 1981.
(Technically, taxes are still paid on stock transfers but the state
refunds 100 percent of the revenue. In their January budget testimony,
NYSNA estimated that a stock transfer tax could generate $20 billion
annually.)

Empire State Indivisible, a leading progressive organization, has called
for the creation of special taxes for millionaires earning in excess of
$5 million, billionaires, and a new tax on luxury homes and apartments.

Cuomo approved a millionaire’s tax in his first term in the aftermath of
the 2008 economic crash, but has otherwise been averse to hiking taxes
on the wealthy—possibly because his budget director used to work for the
State Senate Republicans, who long held the majority, with Cuomo’s tacit
approval. Cuomo’s resistance to raising taxes puts him out of step with
even plutocrat-friendly executives. After 9/11, Mayor Michael Bloomberg,
a billionaire himself, forced through a less-popular property tax hike
to fund city services at a time when businesses were reeling and few
tourists wanted to come to the city.

These days, the best hope for the health care providers and advocates
who want to save hospitals from further gutting is for Cuomo to simply
change his mind. As governor, he holds inordinate power over the state
budget, where he wants his cuts enshrined. Lawmakers may have to choose
between rejecting his cuts or shooting down the state budget altogether
in a time of singular catastrophe.

“We need to do this in a calmer fashion. Right now we are dealing with a
crisis. Let us deal with the crisis,” Rivera, the state senator, said.
“We need to make sure the institutions dealing with the crisis aren’t
gutted post-crisis.”

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  74. 2020-08-04 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  75. 2020-08-04 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  76. 2020-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  77. 2020-08-04 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  78. 2020-08-04 Mark Blackman <mark-at-blackmans.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  79. 2020-08-04 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  80. 2020-08-04 Joseph He <joseph.he.2008-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  81. 2020-08-04 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  82. 2020-08-04 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  83. 2020-08-04 paul trader <fliptop-at-igolinux.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  84. 2020-08-04 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  85. 2020-08-04 From: "Andreas Mock" <andreas.mock-at-web.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  86. 2020-08-04 Jan Kasprzak <kas-at-fi.muni.cz> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  87. 2020-08-04 Ashish Mukherjee <ashish.mukherjee-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  88. 2020-08-04 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  89. 2020-08-04 Wesley Peng <me-at-yonghua.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development language
  90. 2020-08-04 Mark Blackman <mark-at-blackmans.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  91. 2020-08-04 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  92. 2020-08-04 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  93. 2020-08-04 Rolf Schaufelberger <rs-at-plusw.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  94. 2020-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Question about deployment of math computing
  95. 2020-08-06 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Question about deployment of math computing
  96. 2020-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Question about deployment of math computing
  97. 2020-08-07 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The University of Costumed Heroes: A video from
  98. 2020-08-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] check out this little video for fun
  99. 2020-08-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #472 - Perl Steering Committee
  100. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This is dangerous and it sucks... stretch
  101. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mail in election troubles
  102. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Let us play - name their barber
  103. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] mail in election troubles
  104. 2020-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Eric Garner Fiasco continues as a point of
  105. 2020-08-11 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] HHS reopens Provider Relief Fund portal for
  106. 2020-08-11 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals
  107. 2020-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] totally fucked at this point
  108. 2020-08-11 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo
  109. 2020-08-11 EURAFRI Networking - Karl <karl-at-eurafri.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo database.
  110. 2020-08-11 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] An Historic Photo for an Historic Time
  111. 2020-08-11 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] An Historic Photo for an Historic Time
  112. 2020-08-11 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Some Questions
  113. 2020-08-11 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo
  114. 2020-08-11 EURAFRI Networking - Karl <karl-at-eurafri.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Some Questions
  115. 2020-08-11 EURAFRI Networking - Karl <karl-at-eurafri.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo
  116. 2020-08-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] great listen,--
  117. 2020-08-14 Sergey Poznyakoff <gray-at-gnu.org.ua> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mailutils-3.10 released [stable]
  118. 2020-08-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hooray
  119. 2020-08-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confusing
  120. 2020-08-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Race identification Software
  121. 2020-08-15 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Canon "Mega tank" printers with Linux
  122. 2020-08-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Canon "Mega tank" printers with Linux
  123. 2020-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] stop the bullshit now - child cases are not a
  124. 2020-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Brooklyn Politics getting heavy
  125. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Snoden Now
  126. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Postal Service and the Election
  127. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Media fear Mongering and LIEING headlines from PBS
  128. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to end the china sham
  129. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fun and theatrics
  130. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] a complete breakdown
  131. 2020-08-16 Hebcal <noreply-at-hebcal.userecho.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Candle Lighting Times
  132. 2020-08-17 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #473 - What would you like to read
  133. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] age and COVID-19
  134. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] U.S. Coronavirus Forecasts Offer Somber Outlook,
  135. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Covid-19 NEVER going away... now what?
  136. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] South Korea's COVID-19 Miracle proves to also be
  137. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] crime pays - who thunk it
  138. 2020-08-17 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] subway propaganda war | | "MASK ON,
  139. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Guggenheim Museum Diversity, Equity, Access,
  140. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Guggenheim Museum Diversity, Equity, Access,
  141. 2020-08-17 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] subway propaganda war | | "MASK ON,
  142. 2020-08-18 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  143. 2020-08-19 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton client connections
  144. 2020-08-18 Yusif Suleiman <yusifsuleiman-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton client connections
  145. 2020-08-19 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] subway propaganda war | | "MASK ON,
  146. 2020-08-19 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  147. 2020-08-19 Doug Lytle <support-at-drdos.info> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  148. 2020-08-19 Rob Dyke <robdyke-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] LiveCD / demo database request
  149. 2020-08-19 Rob Dyke <robdyke-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] LiveCD / demo database request
  150. 2020-08-19 Doug Lytle <support-at-drdos.info> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  151. 2020-08-19 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  152. 2020-08-19 Rob Dyke <robdyke-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] LiveCD / demo database request
  153. 2020-08-20 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Learn More About Our Upcoming Fall Session
  154. 2020-08-20 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] A Historic Time In History, Use Your Voice NOW
  155. 2020-08-20 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Submit your session for LibrePlanet 2021 before
  156. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?4oCcRkVNQSwgSSdkIHJhdGhlciBkbyBidXNp?=
  157. 2020-08-21 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Today, see comets up close!
  158. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cuomo to Trump - get a mask, while unmasked...
  159. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Made up Sunset Park emergency
  160. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coney Island is being killed by COVID-19 response.
  161. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mail Order Election Fraud
  162. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] WUHAN-19 Costs
  163. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] bastions of Conservative Immergants...
  164. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The very real death of NYC culture
  165. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] defunding the police - in seatle fails to impress
  166. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] after a series of failures - finally the FDA is
  167. 2020-08-21 Doug Lytle <support-at-drdos.info> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  168. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lebanon's free fall collapse will echo for
  169. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] cyberwars in full gear
  170. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mar 2019 - Who needs hospitals? Not Cuomo..
  171. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Who needs hostials - STILL ... Today not last
  172. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lack of Policing makes crime rise? Who knew?
  173. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Black Lives really DO matter... Minories and
  174. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The sumartion of Cuomo's death toll added to
  175. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] US Postal Service and Elections
  176. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Learning from the Enemy Camp and the Value of
  177. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trumps Words - The right to decide for yourself..
  178. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The economy is not coming back... suprise.
  179. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hezbolah and Lebanon
  180. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Keep your friends closer..
  181. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Chinese technological threat and recruitment
  182. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] hacking wars in the covid-19 period
  183. 2020-08-10 Boris Reitman <boris.reitman-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tree Table
  184. 2020-08-23 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  185. 2020-08-23 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  186. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] closed platform means closed!
  187. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Cost of Unemployment - Europe and the US
  188. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How nyc is emparing economic recorvy over petty
  189. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] stimulating the Chinese economy with US money
  190. 2020-08-24 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #474 - Perl and Docker
  191. 2020-08-25 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Taking a Moment to Pause & Reflect
  192. 2020-08-25 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tree Table --> How many minutes to build it
  193. 2020-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tree Table --> How many minutes to build it
  194. 2020-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] current schedule out of Sheepshead Bay
  195. 2020-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The massive layoffs are now starting - American
  196. 2020-08-26 Adam Richter <adamrichter4-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Impedements to libpng-1.7.0
  197. 2020-08-26 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  198. 2020-08-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] to top off a perfectly terrible month...
  199. 2020-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Insurance Company Windfalls
  200. 2020-08-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Perl is not quite dead yet
  201. 2020-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?news_worth_reporting_-_Pyongyang?=
  202. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] AI challenge
  203. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Opinion | Cuomo Gets a Nursing Home Inspectio
  204. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] WHO failure
  205. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] me politics
  206. 2020-08-31 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #475 - Perl jobs? Perl events?
  207. 2020-08-31 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NCPA pushes House committee to address mail order
  208. 2020-08-31 From: "Donald Robertson, III, DBD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The DMCA could use an update,

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