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| DATE | 2020-10-08 |
| FROM | aviva
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NY Times slant
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On 10/8/20 8:40 AM, einker wrote:
>
>
> The issue here is multi-dimensional and this Boro Park Mob mentality
> is what we are dealing with now. It's never ok to beat down
>
Why the screaming? We have enough yelling. Every issue is
multi-dimensional but the fact remains that the reporting is biased
and the NY Times has decades of bias against Jews, and Orthodox Jews in
particular. The demonstrations in Brooklyn this week
were small and mostly involved the Bobov Chassidim, FWIW, when compared
to the continued mass demonstrations for Black Lives
Matters. And then there is the overwhelming problem that is never
discussed of the crush of homeless and mentally handicapped
roaming the city at large, many of whom have been shown to initiate
clusters.
Maybe instead of screaming the proponent of this email can explain when
HE/She thinks it is an appropriate time that Yeshivots
and Synagogues can open and maybe he/she can also explain exactly what
families are expected to do with there children until
then. Our numbers are saying it might be three more years, minimally,
before it is possibly safe to come out and then achieve
the Governors stated goals, and that is with a vaccine before January 2021.
-aa
> other jews who disagree with you or ANYONE for that matter. Don't give
> credibility to the Orthodox or Ultra Orthodox communities
> just because you agree that mask wearing is not working or infringes
> on your non-existant religious rights. Plenty of jewish communities
> outside
> of Brooklyn, Queens, and Lakewood are celebrating Sukkos but
> responsibly so WEAR THE DAMN MASK. Daven in open air courtyards or
> spaces but keep socially distant.
>
> I don't want to become ill or die for anyone and I don't want to be
> that person like Trump who becomes a super-spreader.
>
>
>
>
> Orthodox Borough Park Residents Burn Masks, Beat Dissenters Over
> COVID Lockdown
>
> BY JAKE OFFENHARTZ
> OCT. 7, 2020 9:35 A.M.
> • 390 COMMENTS
>
> An Orthodox man tossing a mask into a street fire in Borough Park
> earlier Wednesday morning
> An Orthodox man tossing a mask into a street fire in Borough Park
> earlier Wednesday morning PROVIDED TO GOTHAMIST
>
> Hundreds of members of Brooklyn's Orthodox community stormed the
> streets and synagogues of Borough Park on Tuesday night to protest new
> coronavirus restrictions
> imposed
> by Governor Andrew Cuomo.
>
> Pledging "war" on officials and public health guidance, demonstrators
> clad in black religious garb set fires along 13th Avenue and tossed
> masks into the flames. They chased away NYC Sheriff's Deputies while
> shouting "Jewish Lives Matter," video shows, and attacked a
> photojournalist
> attempting
> to capture the scene.
>
> Another Orthodox man, who'd opposed the anti-mask crowd, was deemed a
> "snitch" and reportedly hospitalized after a mob of protesters beat
> him with rocks. His brother, Mordy Getz, told Gothamist that he was
> "severely" injured and knocked unconscious, but was doing better as of
> Wednesday morning.
>
> This is a Hasidic counter-protestor who called out people in his
> community today for protesting wearing masks.
>
> He was beaten with rocks and is now in critical condition.
>
> The group was led and instigated by -at-JustEnoughHeshy
> (who
> called them his "soldiers") and -at-KalmanYeger
> . pic.twitter.com/3Men26htez
>
>
> — Elad Nehorai (-at-PopChassid) October 7, 2020
>
>
> Boro Park uprising against -at-andrewcuomo
> -at-nycmayor
> has begun.
> People starting fires in the street. So not
> normal. pic.twitter.com/AB5BpfeyvF
>
> — NYCPHOTOG (-at-nycphotog) October 7, 2020
>
>
> There is a mask burning going on in Boro Park,
> Brooklyn. pic.twitter.com/HKebbFp3pr
>
> — Yaakov Pollak (-at-Yanky_Pollak) October 7, 2020
>
>
> Here is the horrific moment a reporter got assaulted by a crowd in
> Borough Park tonight pic.twitter.com/r0kpnJm3uc
>
>
> — Martin Samoylov (-at-martin_samoylov) October 7, 2020
>
>
> Police said there were no arrests or summonses issued to the
> demonstrators.
>
> The violent scene played out hours after Cuomo announced a tiered
> system of lockdowns
> in
> neighborhoods with spiking infection rates. Across swaths of Central
> Brooklyn and Queens, schools and non-essential businesses will be
> forced to close, and houses of worship must limit capacity to ten
> people at a time.
>
> Officials in Borough Park vowed to defy the restrictions on religious
> observance.
>
> "I don't care who in government thinks they can stop us," City
> Councilman Kalman Yeger, who represents the neighborhood, told
> protesters on Tuesday. "They're wrong, let them try."
>
> Councilman -at-KalmanYeger
> joins the
> protest on #13thAve
> pic.twitter.com/9G2RzkL9oG
>
>
> — Boro Park News (-at-BoroPark24) October 7, 2020
>
>
> Community resident Heshy Tischler tells protesters in the presence
> of an NYPD inspector: “You are my soldiers. We are at
> war.” pic.twitter.com/9sneRVxrf3
>
> — Jacob Kornbluh (-at-jacobkornbluh) October 7, 2020
>
>
> Residents in Borough Park have largely flouted public health rules on
> masks and gatherings
> ,
> even as the positivity rate in the area has surpassed 8 percent, the
> highest in the five boroughs.
>
> "Nobody here has the virus," said a woman walking in Borough Park with
> her children on Tuesday, adding that lockdowns were politically
> motivated by Democrats. "The president got the virus, he recovered.
> There are medicines now."
>
> The overnight protest was organized by Heshy Tischler, an anti-mask
> activist and radio host who last month interrupted a public health
> briefing
> .
> He told the crowd on Tuesday that such demonstrations would take place
> nightly until the ban on gatherings was lifted. "You are my soldiers,"
> he said. "We are at war." As he spoke, other demonstrators could be
> heard chanting "Donald Trump."
>
> Shulim Leifer, a Hasidic man and former Borough Park resident, said
> the community was plagued by right-wing misinformation about the virus.
>
> "What we witnessed is a community that is so lacking in responsible
> leadership that thugs and criminals like Heshy Tischler carry the
> day," Leifer told Gothamist on Wednesday morning. "This isn't who
> we're supposed to be."
>
> /Additional reporting by Gwynne Hogan./
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:09 PM Ruben Safir > > wrote:
>
> algemeiner.com
> New York Times Flunks Again in Coverage of Jews and Coronavirus
> by Ira Stoll
> 5-6 minutes
>
> A taxi passes by in front of The New York Times head office, Feb. 7,
> 2013. Photo: Reuters / Carlo Allegri / File.
>
> Double standards. Factual errors. Disproportionate coverage and
> lack of
> context. Conflicting information.
>
> The problems that consistently afflict New York Times coverage of Jews
> and Judaism, particularly Orthodox Jews and Orthodox Judaism, are
> flaring again amid the newspaper’s coverage of New York’s latest
> coronavirus outbreak.
>
> A New York Times column this week by Ginia Bellafante faulted the
> “insular” community for being ill-informed. “The city needs to do a
> better job at getting information to an insular community that already
> believes it has herd immunity,” a subheadline over the column said.
>
> The column begins:
>
> “DO NOT test your child for Covid.”
>
> So began a text that recently circulated on the messaging platform
> WhatsApp, among yeshiva parents in Brooklyn’s Orthodox Jewish
> community.
>
> A few paragraphs later, the Times column says, “many large Hasidic
> families live in small, cramped apartments, typically without internet
> access and often with just a landline.”
>
> The end of the column includes the paragraph, “In a community that
> prizes seclusion and remains averse to technology, information has a
> tendency to spread very slowly.”
>
> So which is it — landline only and technology averse? Or texting on
> WhatsApp? The Times columnist can’t seem to make up her mind about
> which
> broad-brush stereotype to deploy in describing Orthodox Jews.
>
> The same column reports:
>
> Governor Cuomo and his health commissioner, Howard A. Zucker, have
> also been talking to religious leaders …One crucial message that
> has yet
> to be received, Dr. Zucker said, is that herd immunity is a myth in
> these communities. Many in this part of Brooklyn believe that because
> the Orthodox were hit so hard by the virus this spring, they must have
> already been sick, and that the crisis has passed. This, according to
> public health officials, is simply not true.
>
> Well, where could this “insular” community have possibly gotten this
> “myth” of herd immunity from?
>
> Quite possibly from The New York Times itself, which in a July 10 news
> article reported:
>
> According to antibody test results from CityMD that were
> shared with
> The New York Times, some neighborhoods were so exposed to the virus
> during the peak of the epidemic in March and April that they might
> have
> some protection during a second wave.
>
> “Some communities might have herd immunity,” said Dr. Daniel
> Frogel,
> a senior vice president for operations at CityMD, which plays a
> key role
> in the city’s testing program… While stopping short of predicting that
> those neighborhoods would be protected against a major new outbreak of
> the virus — a phenomenon known as herd immunity — several
> epidemiologists said that the different levels of antibody prevalence
> across the city are likely to play a role in what happens next,
> assuming
> that antibodies do in fact offer significant protection against future
> infection.
>
> “In the future, the infection rate should really be lower in
> minority communities,” said Kitaw Demissie, an epidemiologist and the
> dean of the School of Public Health at SUNY Downstate Medical
> Center in
> Brooklyn.
>
> A Times news article headlined “Backlash Grows in Orthodox Jewish
> Areas
> Over Virus Crackdown by Cuomo” carries a correction: “An earlier
> version
> of this article misstated the title of Simcha Felder. He is a state
> senator, not a state assemblyman.”
>
> The Times news article describes the protesters against Cuomo and de
> Blasio as a “angry” and a “mob,” terms the Times has largely avoided
> using to refer to Black Lives Matter protesters, whom the
> newspaper has
> repeatedly described as “mostly peaceful.”
>
> Three paragraphs of the Times article report “the anger was not
> limited
> to the Orthodox Jewish community. The Roman Catholic Diocese of
> Brooklyn, which has 1.5 million followers and 210 churches in Brooklyn
> and Queens, said it was taken by surprise by the governor’s
> announcement. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn condemned the new
> rules as ‘outrageous’ in a statement on Tuesday night.”
>
> “The religious freedom of our parishioners is being unjustly
> attacked,”
> DiMarzio is quoted as saying.
>
> One wonders why the Catholics are three paragraphs in the middle of a
> long story and headline about the Jews, rather than the Jews being
> three
> paragraphs in the middle of a long story and headline about the
> Catholics. Maybe the idea of Catholics as spreaders of disease just
> doesn’t resonant as much for New York Times editors? As a libel
> against
> Jews, though, it has a long, sordid history at the Times, of which
> this
> is just the latest sad chapter.
>
> Ira Stoll was managing editor of The Forward and North American editor
> of The Jerusalem Post. His media critique, a regular Algemeiner
> feature,
> can be found here.
>
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