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DATE 2021-02-06
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SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] There is NEVER a plan to set us FREE
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/coronavirus-in-israel-vaccination-doesnt-equal-liberation-657898


COVID-19: Here’s why global travel is unlikely to resume ‘till 2024
HEALTH AFFAIRS: Vaccination doesn’t equal liberation
By MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN FEBRUARY 5, 2021 09:33
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THE EMPTY departures hall at Ben-Gurion Airport this week. When will the
skies open up and how long will it take until traveling is safe? (photo
credit: TOMER NEUBERG/FLASH90)
THE EMPTY departures hall at Ben-Gurion Airport this week. When will the
skies open up and how long will it take until traveling is safe?
(photo credit: TOMER NEUBERG/FLASH90)
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly referred to Israel’s
national vaccination campaign as the “light at the end of the tunnel.”
If the majority of Israelis get inoculated, he instructed, then the
economy will open, and life will soon return to the way it once was.
But as millions of Israelis have “given a shoulder” to make the country
safer, it is becoming more apparent that even if the entire Israeli
population is immunized, this will not mean life will return to its 2019
reality.
This will be especially true when it comes to opening the skies and
resuming international travel in any significant quantity or of any quality.
To do that, “we need to immunize all countries of the world,” explained
Lancet editor-in-chief Richard Horton to The Jerusalem Post. “To reach
herd immunity, about two-thirds of the world population – four billion
to five billion people – need to be vaccinated. Each person has to have
two doses – that is 10 billion doses of the vaccine.”
As such, the pandemic will not be solved by spring 2021, health experts
said. It will not be over in 2022. And according to the most optimistic
predictions, the skies will only really begin to open, and travel and
tourism will resume, sometime between 2023 and 2024.
The impact on people’s lives will likely not only be whether they can
visit the Eiffel Tower or Great Wall of China. While the world recovers
from COVID-19, it will be plagued by economic and health challenges that
impact everyone.
“We live in a global world, with or without realizing it,” said Michael
Edelstein, a professor of population health in Bar-Ilan University’s
Faculty of Medicine, in an interview with the Post. “A lot of our lives
rely on interconnectivity.”
A report recently published by the Economist Intelligence Unit, the
research and analysis division of The Economist Group, explained that
whereas the rollout of vaccines against coronavirus has started in
developed countries, mass vaccination will take time.
The unit predicts that the bulk of the adult population in advanced
economies will have been vaccinated by mid-2022. Middle-income countries
will take until late 2022 or early 2023.
“For poorer economies, mass immunization will take until 2024, if it
happens at all,” the report said.
In other words, “we will not have synchronistic recovery,” said Agathe
Demarais, global forecasting director and trustee for the Economist
Charitable Trust, an independent charity that is meant to leverage the
journalistic expertise of The Economist newspaper. “In the meantime,
while not everyone is vaccinated, we will have the emergence of new
variants, and it could mean going back to square one.”
THE CHALLENGES to getting the world vaccinated are many, Demarais
explained to the Post.
First, there is an issue of production. Demand for vaccines far
outstrips the available supply, and is expected to do so for at least
several more months. Moreover, many of the world’s wealthier countries
have already prepurchased the available vaccines.
According to the Economist report, of the 12.5 billion doses that the
main vaccine producers have so far pledged to make this year, more than
six billion have already been preordered.
“When countries made their orders, they did not know which vaccines
would work, so they booked every vaccine they could get a hold of,”
Demarais explained.
Canada, for example, bought enough for more than five times its population.
Israel paid more than other countries and committed to exchange data
with Pfizer to ensure it could vaccinate all citizens who want to be
vaccinated – a move that is not an option for poorer countries,
“especially given that the coronavirus-induced recession has already
depleted fiscal resources and led to ballooning budget deficits,” the
report says.
“We don’t have enough vaccines for richer countries, so poorer countries
that are next in line will have to wait longer,” Demarais said.
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), coronavirus vaccines
are now being administered in 50 countries around the world, but 75% of
the doses have been deployed in only 10 countries.
Israel also ordered six million doses of the Moderna vaccine and another
10 million doses of AstraZeneca’s vaccine. It also has a contract with
Arcturus, though that vaccine candidate is still in the midst of its
phase II clinical trial.
Originally, Israel ordered eight million doses of the Pfizer vaccine,
but the company has now pledged to provide the country with a continual
supply until Israel has completed its campaign.
Demarais said that while in theory richer countries could ship vaccines
to poorer countries, the quantities they will commit to – 1,000 here or
there – will likely not make a real difference. And it is also unlikely
that countries with excess vaccines would start sharing vaccines until
they have completed their own vaccination campaigns.
Another challenge to a global rollout is logistics. Many countries
cannot accommodate the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, which need to be
stored between -70°C and -30°C.
Shipping vaccines is also complicated today, Demarais said. Vaccines
were usually shipped on passenger planes, but at the moment there are
not a lot of passenger planes flying.
In addition, there are not enough healthcare workers in all countries to
distribute the vaccines, especially in larger countries like India and
China. Paying healthcare workers to carry out the distribution could
also pose a hurdle.
“We now face the real danger that even as vaccines bring hope to those
in wealthy countries, much of the world could be left behind,” said WHO
director-general Tedros Adhanom.
Speaking at a January 27 briefing, he said: “Some countries and
companies are making bilateral deals, going around COVAX, driving up
prices and attempting to jump to the front of the queue.”
COVAX is a joint program of Gavi, the Coalition for Epidemic
Preparedness Innovations and the WHO that is meant to accelerate the
development and manufacturing of COVID-19 vaccines, and to guarantee
fair and equitable access to them.
“It is understandable that governments want to prioritize vaccinating
their own health workers and older people first,” Tedros said. “But it
is not right that younger, healthier adults in rich countries are
vaccinated before health workers and older people in poorer countries. I
hope you will understand this. A me-first approach leaves the world’s
poorest and most vulnerable people at risk.”
Edelstein explained that when discussing global herd immunity, it is not
that an average of 70% of the world needs to be vaccinated, it is that
70% of every group and subgroup would need to be equally vaccinated.
Otherwise, there would continually be outbreaks and transmission in
those non-vaccinated areas.
Hence, “vaccine equity is not just a moral imperative,” Tedros stressed.
“Ending this pandemic depends upon it.”
A final challenge, according to Demarais, is vaccine hesitancy. In many
countries – such as France, Japan and Argentina – around half of the
populations have said they do not want to get the jab for various reasons.
Demarais said that these obstacles are compounded by what is becoming
known as “vaccine diplomacy,” which she believes will play a key role in
determining which poorer countries get access to vaccines, but may also
impact the landscape of those countries for years to come.
“Chinese and Russian vaccines are being rolled out both domestically and
to emerging countries such as Egypt, via diplomatic bilateral deals,”
the Economist report reads. “Russia and China [are] trying to bolster
their global status via the delivery of vaccines – this year and beyond.
Both countries will also seek to adopt a transactional approach to the
delivery of vaccines, using coronavirus shots as a bargaining chip to
advance their national interests.”
In contrast to these deals, Israel has signed contracts with companies –
not countries – and has been hesitant to agree to purchase the Russian
Sputnik V vaccine, even now that it has shown to be nearly 92% effective
in an independent study published by The Lancet.
The Palestinian Authority has purchased Russian vaccines; 10,000 were
delivered to the PA on Wednesday.
Demarais said the concerns are both that there might be differences
between what these countries commit to and what they can actually
deliver, and that Russia and China might want something in return down
the road.
“This will be a long-term footprint,” she said.
IN THE meantime, Israel’s airports are closed, and global tourism has
decreased 74% worldwide in the past year, according to Prof. Chaim Noy
of Bar-Ilan’s School of Communication and chairman of the Israel
Communication Association.
For perspective, he said tourism decreased by only 4% during the
economic downturn between 2008 and 2009.
The world was averaging a billion tourists a year before coronavirus.
The crisis has put $100 million to $120 million worth of direct tourist
jobs at risk and has resulted in a loss of $1.3 trillion in expected
revenues, he said.
“This is unimaginable,” Noy told the Post. “The more the process goes
on, the more pessimistic the experts are in terms of when [the industry]
will rebound. The more time passes, the more expert consensus is that we
are not looking at 2022, but 2023 or 2024 – and even then, no one says
things will be back to normal.”
The shift in travel and tourism as a result of the global scale of the
pandemic will be both in terms of quantity and quality.
“I think people got burned from opening up tourism too fast, which will
make things in the future work slower,” he explained, citing the example
of what happened between Dubai and Israel.
Masses of Israelis flocked to Dubai when the normalization agreement was
signed. Politics and diplomacy got in the way of monitoring how much
infection was traveling between the two countries – and in the meantime,
the South African mutation entered Israel.
He said this is an isolated example of a global challenge that has been
identified: The spreading of mutations is associated with global
tourism, and therefore “nothing can be rushed.”
Noy said that lack of tourism hurts the economy, but rushing to open up
tourism will hurt the economy more – and in the most painful spots. It
will result in lockdowns and overcrowded hospitals – “the really painful
spots.”
Moreover, he said that even when travel resumes, it will look different.
People will look for places where they can enjoy “open-air tourism,”
outdoor tourism and nature-based tourism. They will also likely first
look for domestic options before heading abroad.
He said that before the pandemic, one of the “hottest” sectors of
tourism was retirees, who were living longer and in better health and
also had more time and money.
“This whole sector is going to be much more worried about traveling even
after getting vaccinated,” Noy said.
A report by the WHO released in December noted that travelers will need
to ask themselves several questions before getting on an airplane. These
include how likely they are to get infected in the country of
destination compared to at home; whether the destination country has
sufficient response capacity to treat travelers who may need medical
care; and whether their own country has capacity to enforce mandatory
public health measures on return, if necessary.
Airports will also require a shift for travel to resume, such as putting
crowd control and social distancing measures in place. WHO recommends
that mask use and hand hygiene measures be put in place to minimize the
risk of transmission at points of entry, such as during check-in,
passport control, in restrooms, security areas, etc.
“People can hope, but I don’t think anyone can realistically say when
travel will come anywhere near where it was before,” Noy said. “We are
going to see some radical changes.”
In the first stage, it is more likely that “travel corridors” will be
established whereby only certain routes will be available based on the
immunology of the disease and bilateral agreements between countries,
Edelstein said.
The Post confirmed on Wednesday that Israel and Greece are negotiating
an agreement to allow Israelis who have received two doses of the
coronavirus vaccine to be able to visit Greece.
Greek officials are expected to visit Israel next week to discuss the
possibility.
Some countries will allow in people with proof of vaccination, others
might continue to require testing before and after, and still others may
require isolation or some combination of all three.
WHO SAID in January that it is opposed, at least “for the time being,”
to the introduction of vaccine passports or certificates as a condition
for allowing international travelers entry into other countries,
something that Israel was hoping to help establish.
It said that “the use of immunity certificates for international travel
in the context of COVID-19 is not currently supported by scientific
evidence and is therefore not recommended by WHO,” in its December report.
“Beyond the scientific uncertainties around immunity passports, there
are ethical, legal and human rights aspects related to privacy of
personal data and medical confidentiality; the potential for
falsification or engagement in risky behavior based on a false sense of
security; stigma; and discrimination,” the report said.
Dr. Dorit Nitzan, WHO’s Israeli-born regional emergency director, told
the Post that there are several reasons that these passports could not
work at the present time.
“We are not sure that those who are vaccinated do not spread the
disease,” she said. In addition, scientists are unsure how long
postvaccination immunity really exists.
Another issue is variants.
“We know that for at least the South African variant, the vaccines’
effectiveness is lower than what was planned,” she explained. “You might
be vaccinated against one variant, but if you bump into another variant
on a flight, you are at risk.”
Israel shut its airports to keep out these mutations while it
vaccinates, a move similar to the one taken by the United Kingdom.
“We are closing the skies hermetically, except for really rare
exceptions, to prevent the entry of virus mutations, and also to ensure
that we progress quickly with our vaccination campaign,” Netanyahu said
at the end of last month.
The Health Ministry is pushing the government to keep the skies closed
for at least several more weeks, if not months, until a system is in
place to maintain testing, isolation and genetic sequencing that could
stop the spread of mutations before it starts.
“We cannot indefinitely keep each country isolated on the chance that
new strains will emerge,” Edelstein said. “What you need is a mechanism
and policy to respond quickly and take critical steps if the situation
justifies it.”
The UK variant entered Israel and rapidly infected so many people that
it now accounts for between 70% and 80% of all infections in the country.
Nitzan said that a “mega argument” against these certificates comes back
to equity.
“How would you feel if, because you got vaccinated, you have the green
card, but the same person in another country, because they have only a
few vaccines, cannot travel, so they get punished?” Nitzan asked.
She said the goal right now should not be global herd immunity but
saving lives.
WHO, like most countries in the world – including Israel – has
prioritized the elderly and healthcare workers for vaccination. But
while Israel has already opened up vaccination to all people over the
age of 16, “probably 98% of countries in the world will not be able to
do something like this soon.”
Their goals right now, she said, are simply to shield those most at risk
and thereby reduce hospitalization and death.
“I DON’T THINK the virus will ever go away,” Demarais said. “We will
learn to live with it, like the flu.”
She said it is expected that, each year, the vaccines will need to be
adjusted to work against new strains, as they are for influenza, and
coronavirus vaccination campaigns will become routine – at a huge cost.
“We are going to be living with coronavirus for a long, long time,”
Demarais said. “It is a grim picture.”
But Ran Balicer, director of Health Policy Planning for Clalit, had a
more positive perspective. He told the Post that while the race between
vaccination and the risk of mutations will always linger, he believes
that in combination with traditional steps of wearing masks and social
distancing, the virus could be kept under control and people could
return to “a near normal daily routine.”
“I do think we will reach a new status quo that will be more similar to
the life we used to know, when we have a very high percentage of the
population covered,” Balicer said.
He added that if at some point children can also be inoculated, it will
be a game changer – and then, at least in Israel, the country really
could have herd immunity.
But this will not guarantee travel abroad.
“Coronavirus, the pandemic and the reactions to it challenge us as
tourists [and] as travelers to think and renew,” said Bar-Ilan’s Noy.
“We will have to ask ourselves whether everything was going fine and we
really want it back anyway – or this can be our opportunity to take the
road less traveled.”

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  33. 2021-02-04 Liam Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  34. 2021-02-04 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  35. 2021-02-04 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  36. 2021-02-04 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  37. 2021-02-04 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  38. 2021-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Landlines and Faxes and Security
  39. 2021-02-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Copyright Wars continue
  40. 2021-02-05 Alexander Vdolainen <alex-at-vapaa.xyz> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] How do we organize to reist universal
  41. 2021-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] There is NEVER a plan to set us FREE
  42. 2021-02-06 Judy <judy-at-corozal.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  43. 2021-02-06 nick glos via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Blurring the edges
  44. 2021-02-06 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  45. 2021-02-05 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  46. 2021-02-05 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  47. 2021-02-05 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem
  48. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Put Down Your phone
  49. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: So Many Prizes But So Little Time! Early
  50. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] normal is normal
  51. 2021-02-07 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  52. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [EXT]
  53. 2021-02-07 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  54. 2021-02-07 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  55. 2021-02-07 Adam Prime <adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] (no subject)
  56. 2021-02-06 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  57. 2021-02-06 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  58. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  59. 2021-02-07 akovia via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  60. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  61. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Slide to depression that no stimulus can fix...
  62. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virus Mutation Basics and the Economy
  63. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] So now where are we at ...
  64. 2021-02-08 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  65. 2021-02-07 montefiore-jobnotification-at-noreply.jobs2web.com Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New jobs posted from careers.montefiore.org
  66. 2021-02-07 RSA / Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim <info-at-kollelauction.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] So Many Prizes... Only 3 Days Left Until The
  67. 2021-02-08 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #498 - Perl.com is back
  68. 2021-02-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  69. 2021-02-08 Erik Lauritsen <eriklauritsen-at-yandex.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  70. 2021-02-09 Mostafa Ahangarha <ahangarha-at-riseup.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  71. 2021-02-09 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  72. 2021-02-09 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  73. 2021-02-09 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  74. 2021-02-09 Clive Eisen <clive-at-hildebrand.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  75. 2021-02-09 Rafael Caceres <rcaceres-at-aasa.com.pe> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  76. 2021-02-09 Clive Eisen <clive-at-hildebrand.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  77. 2021-02-09 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  78. 2021-02-08 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  79. 2021-02-09 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  80. 2021-02-09 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  81. 2021-02-08 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  82. 2021-02-07 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  83. 2021-02-08 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  84. 2021-02-08 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  85. 2021-02-08 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  86. 2021-02-08 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  87. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  88. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  89. 2021-02-07 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  90. 2021-02-07 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  91. 2021-02-07 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  92. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  93. 2021-02-07 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  94. 2021-02-09 From: "Con Edison Marketplace [Masked]" <FWD.41y4n0uw889n-at-opayq.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Don=E2=80=99t_Miss_Our_Best_Deal=3A_?=
  95. 2021-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] milton freedman
  96. 2021-02-09 From: "M.R.P. zensky via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Plain light color with Gimp
  97. 2021-02-07 nick glos via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 113,
  98. 2021-02-08 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  99. 2021-02-07 From: =?utf-8?q?Jehan_Pag=C3=A8s_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  100. 2021-02-11 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  101. 2021-02-10 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  102. 2021-02-10 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  103. 2021-02-11 Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an
  104. 2021-02-08 From: =?utf-8?q?Jacques_Le_F=C3=A8vre_via_gimp-user-list?= Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an old
  105. 2021-02-11 Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an
  106. 2021-02-11 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an
  107. 2021-02-11 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  108. 2021-02-11 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  109. 2021-02-10 Stan Pioro via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  110. 2021-02-10 Stan Pioro via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  111. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] I hate Joe Biden - He is a lie sleezeball
  112. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to end trade with china
  113. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Not being silent in the face of broad lies
  114. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The rel cost of lockdowns
  115. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The healthcare economy scam that screws everyone
  116. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] I hate Joe Biden - He is a lie
  117. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Never trust the Times anyway
  118. 2021-02-12 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  119. 2021-02-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  120. 2021-02-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  121. 2021-02-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  122. 2021-02-12 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  123. 2021-02-11 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  124. 2021-02-11 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  125. 2021-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Turtle Pond
  126. 2021-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Let something random into your life
  127. 2021-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Roadside Attractions in California
  128. 2021-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Domestic breakdown
  129. 2021-02-15 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  130. 2021-02-14 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  131. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  132. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  133. 2021-02-14 Jeff Pohlmeyer <yetanothergeek-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  134. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  135. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  136. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  137. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  138. 2021-02-14 Kian Kasad <kian-at-kasad.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  139. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  140. 2021-02-14 Kian Kasad <kian-at-kasad.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  141. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  142. 2021-02-13 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  143. 2021-02-13 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  144. 2021-02-15 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  145. 2021-02-14 Alexandre Oliva <lxoliva-at-fsfla.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Linux-libre 5.11-gnu (ilovefs)
  146. 2021-02-15 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  147. 2021-02-15 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health: ICD-10 coding, recipes,
  148. 2021-02-14 Mostafa Ahangarha <ahangarha-at-riseup.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  149. 2021-02-15 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  150. 2021-02-15 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #499 - Farewell Kent Frederic
  151. 2021-02-15 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  152. 2021-02-15 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  153. 2021-02-15 Kian Kasad <kian-at-kasad.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  154. 2021-02-15 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  155. 2021-02-15 Sis 3 via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Using overlays in Gimp
  156. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have lived
  157. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have lived
  158. 2021-02-16 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have
  159. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] as we actually already knew because
  160. 2021-02-16 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] as we actually already knew because
  161. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Pandemic Economy - The New Depression Apply Cart
  162. 2021-02-16 Kollel Ner Dovid / Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim <info-at-kollelauction.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Last Chance! Deadline Is Tonight!! Free Trip to
  163. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Where are we at not and how we got here ==>
  164. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have
  165. 2021-02-16 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have
  166. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Schools are for students or teachers?
  167. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Our Friends in Iran can smell blood in the water..
  168. 2021-02-16 Jason Cooper <jason+artix-at-coldbeach.io> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit for background (boo!)
  169. 2021-02-16 Jason Cooper <jason+artix-at-coldbeach.io> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit for background (boo!)
  170. 2021-02-16 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Using overlays in Gimp
  171. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Bitcoin Mayheim
  172. 2021-02-17 From: =?utf-8?Q?Hackaday?= <newsletter-at-hackaday.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Lots_of_Clocks=2C_a_Blinky_Skirt=2C_?=
  173. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coming economic troubles
  174. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coming economic troubles
  175. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Aliens are coming... really are.
  176. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coming economic troubles ii
  177. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Bailing out bad left-wing power grabbing policy
  178. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coumo consipracies
  179. 2021-02-17 From: "Pharmacy Times Continuing Education" <reply-at-email.pharmacytimes.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sunday Symposium: PCSK9
  180. 2021-02-18 Robin Simmons <robin-at-lenkeninternational.co.uk> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Darktable plug-in stopped working
  181. 2021-02-19 Victor Cubelo via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with GIMP Tool
  182. 2021-02-20 Robin Simmons <robin-at-lenkeninternational.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Darktable plug-in stopped working
  183. 2021-02-20 Robin Simmons <robin-at-lenkeninternational.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Darktable plug-in stopped working
  184. 2021-02-20 James Curione via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10.22 on iMac
  185. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Israel goes FULL BOOR Facistist Survailence State
  186. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] II - Israel goes FULL BOOR Facistist Survailence
  187. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] III - Israel goes FULL BOOR Facistist Survailence
  188. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] We are on the tipping point...
  189. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Pandemic Economy
  190. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The war on natural gas will soon be coming home
  191. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Homelessness problem stubburnly gets worst adn
  192. 2021-02-22 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #500 - TPF and TRF
  193. 2021-02-22 Michael Gates via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] import about 400 .svg as layers
  194. 2021-02-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccinations and Lockdowns and the Faucci Fanatism
  195. 2021-02-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Domestic-Terrorism_Bill_Is_=E2=80=98?=
  196. 2021-02-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Domestic-Terrorism_Bill_Is_=E2=80=98?=
  197. 2021-02-23 From: "APhA - American Pharmacists Association" <infocenter-at-aphanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Information from Industry: Single-dose flu
  198. 2021-02-24 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health: MyGNUHealth:
  199. 2021-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] If One Mask works to generate lethal strains,
  200. 2021-02-24 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] If One Mask works to generate lethal
  201. 2021-02-24 From: "Pat Schloss" <pdschloss-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] Updated workshop schedule and databases
  202. 2021-02-25 garpin <garpin-at-protonmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Possible GPL violation on Mac App Store
  203. 2021-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cracks in the use of executive power coming fro
  204. 2021-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Election irregularities on a regular schedule..
  205. 2021-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] We need to end our trade with China
  206. 2021-02-27 Qontinuum <qontinuum.dev-at-protonmail.ch> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] New Artix mirror
  207. 2021-02-26 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  208. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mars
  209. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Rose Colored Racism
  210. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 being used as the death of the free and
  211. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 being used as the death of the free and
  212. 2021-02-27 Qontinuum <qontinuum.dev-at-protonmail.ch> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] New Artix mirror
  213. 2021-02-16 Jason Cooper <jason+artix-at-coldbeach.io> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit for background (boo!)
  214. 2021-02-22 Kevin Payne via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone
  215. 2021-02-21 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone
  216. 2021-02-20 Ross Martinek <triarius-at-att.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10.22 on iMac
  217. 2021-02-21 From: "M.R.P. zensky via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone
  218. 2021-02-23 Wesley Peng <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] modperl vs fastcgi
  219. 2021-02-19 Charles Pigott <cpigott-at-rapitasystems.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] SIGSEGV crash due to undefined behaviour when
  220. 2021-02-12 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  221. 2021-02-09 Dave Morgan <dave-at-1001111.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  222. 2021-02-11 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  223. 2021-02-12 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  224. 2021-02-22 Charles Pigott <cpigott-at-rapitasystems.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] SIGSEGV crash due to undefined behaviour when
  225. 2021-02-22 Steve Hay <steve.m.hay-at-googlemail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] SIGSEGV crash due to undefined behaviour when
  226. 2021-02-11 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and

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