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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 21:21:41 +0800
From: "Wesley Peng"
To: modperl-at-perl.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
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If you can take time to rewrite all codes with modPerl handlers, that wi=
ll improve performance a lot.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
> In fact, I just realised that 'ab' test is rather restrictive.... So h=
ere's a bit more of an extended test:
>=20
> # ab -k -n 1000 -c 32
>=20
> Apache + ExecCGI:
> Requests per second: 14.26 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 2244.181 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 70.131 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reque=
sts)
>=20
> Apache + mod_perl (ModPerl::PerlRegistry):=20
> Requests per second: 132.14 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 242.175 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 7.568 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reques=
ts)
>=20
> Interestingly, without Keepalives, the story is much the same:
>=20
> # ab -n 1000 -c 32
>=20
> Apache + ExecCGI:
> Requests per second: 14.15 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 2260.875 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 70.652 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reque=
sts)
>=20
> Apache + mod_perl (ModPerl::PerlRegistry):=20
> Requests per second: 154.48 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 207.140 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 6.473 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reques=
ts)
>=20
> Running some benchmarks across various parts of my site made me realis=
e I also had some RewriteRules in the apache config that still had H=3Dc=
gi-script - changed those to H=3Dperl-script and saw similar improvement=
s:
>=20
> ExecCGI - Requests per second: 11.84 [#/sec] (mean)
> mod_perl - Requests per second: 130.97 [#/sec] (mean)
>=20
> That's quite some gains for a days work.
>=20
> --
> Steven Haigh =F0=9F=93=A7 netwiz-at-crc.id.au =F0=9F=92=BB https://www.cr=
c.id.au
>=20
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 23:58, Steven Haigh wrote:
>> Interestingly, I did get things working with ModPerl::PerlRegistry.
>>=20
>> What I couldn't find *anywhere* is that the data I was loading in Tem=
plate Toolkit was included in the file in the __DATA__ area - which caus=
es mod_perl to fall over!
>>=20
>> The only way I managed to find this was the following error in the *s=
ystem* /var/log/httpd/error_log (didn't show up in the vhost error_log!)=
:
>> readline() on unopened filehandle DATA at /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_per=
l/Template/Provider.pm line 638.
>>=20
>> Took me a LONG time to find a vague post that reading in lines from <=
DATA> kills mod_perl. Not sure why - but I stripped all the templates ou=
t and put them in a file instead and re-wrote that bit of code, and thin=
gs started working.
>>=20
>> I had to fix a few lib path issues, but after getting my head around =
that, most things seem to work as before - however I don't notice much o=
f an improvement in execution times, I do see this improvement using 'ab=
-n 100 -c32':
>>=20
>> Apache + ExecCGI: Requests per second: 13.50 [#/sec] (mean)
>> Apache + mod_perl: Requests per second: 59.81 [#/sec] (mean)
>>=20
>> This is obviously a good thing.
>>=20
>> I haven't gotten into the preload or DBI sharing yet - as that'll end=
up needing a bit of a rewrite of code to take advantage of. I'd be open=
to suggestions here from those who have done it in the past to save me =
going down some dead ends :D
>>=20
>> --
>> Steven Haigh =F0=9F=93=A7 netwiz-at-crc.id.au =F0=9F=92=BB https://www.c=
rc.id.au
>>=20
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 12:49, James Smith wrote:
>>> As welsey said =E2=80=93 try Registry, that was the standard way of =
using mod_perl to cache perl in the server =E2=80=93 but your problem m=
ight be due to the note in PerlRun=E2=80=A6
>>>=20
>>> https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/ModPerl/PerlRun.html#Descriptio=
n
>>> META: document that for now we don't chdir() into the script's dir, =
because it affects the whole process under threads. `ModPerl::PerlRunPre=
fork ` =
should be used by those who run only under prefork MPM.
>>> {tbh most people don=E2=80=99t use mod perl under threads anyway as =
there isn=E2=80=99t really a gain from using them}
>>>=20
>>> It suggests you use ModPerl/PerlRunPrefork =E2=80=93 as this does an=
additional step to cd to the script directory =E2=80=93 which might be =
your issue=E2=80=A6.

>>> =20

>>> *From:* Steven Haigh =20
>>> *Sent:* 07 February 2021 01:00
>>> *To:* modperl-at-perl.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and custom 'modu=
les' [EXT]

>>> =20

>>> Hi all,

>>> =20

>>> So for many years I've been slack and writing perl scripts to do var=
ious things - but never needed more than the normal apache +ExecCGI and =
Template Toolkit.

>>> =20

>>> One of my sites has become a bit more popular, so I'd like to spend =
a bit of time on performance. Currently, I'm seeing ~300-400ms of what I=
believe to be execution time of the script loading, running, and then b=
latting its output to STDOUT and the browser can go do its thing.=20

>>> =20

>>> I believe most of the delay would be to do with loading perl, its mo=
dules etc etc

>>> =20

>>> I know that the current trend would be to re-write the entire site i=
n a more modern, daemon based solution - and I started down the Mojolici=
ous path - but the amount of re-writing to save 1/3rd of a second seems =
to be excessive

>>> =20

>>> Would I be correct in thinking that mod_perl would help in this case=
?

>>> =20

>>> I did try a basic test, but I have a 'use functions' in all my scrip=
ts that loads a .pm with some global vars and a lot of common subs - and=
for whatever reason (can't find anything on Google as to why), none of =
the subs are recognised in the main script when loaded via ModPerl::Perl=
Run.

>>> =20

>>> So throwing it out to the list - am I on the right track? wasting my=
time? or just a simple mistake?

>>> =20

>>> --

>>> Steven Haigh =F0=9F=93=A7 netwiz-at-crc.id.au =F0=9F=92=BB https://www.=
crc.id.au [crc.id.au] s-3A__www.crc.id.au_&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3DD7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0=
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>>> -- The Wellcome Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limi=
ted, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company r=
egistered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215=
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If you can=
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performance a lot.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, at 9:1=
4 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
tyle=3D"">
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alised that 'ab' test is rather restrictive.... So here's a bit more of =
an extended test:

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Apache + ExecCGI:
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#/sec] (mean)
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an)
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request:       70.131 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent r=
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<=
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st:       6.473 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent request=
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ious parts of my site made me realise I also had some RewriteRules in th=
e apache config that still had H=3Dcgi-script - changed those to H=3Dper=
l-script and saw similar improvements:

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ond:    11.84 [#/sec] (mean)
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bsp;130.97 [#/sec] (mean)

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gains for a days work.
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On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 23:58, Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.=
au> wrote:
y" dir=3D"auto">
Interestingly, I did get things working with ModPer=
l::PerlRegistry.

What I couldn't find *anyw=
here* is that the data I was loading in Template Toolkit was included in=
the file in the __DATA__ area - which causes mod_perl to fall over!
=

The only way I managed to find this was the fo=
llowing error in the *system* /var/log/httpd/error_log (didn't show up i=
n the vhost error_log!):
re-wrap;">readline() on unopened filehandle DATA at /usr/lib64/pe=
rl5/vendor_perl/Template/Provider.pm line 638.

<=
/div>
Took me a LONG time to find a vague post that reading in lines=
from <DATA> kills mod_perl. Not sure why - but I stripped all the=
templates out and put them in a file instead and re-wrote that bit of c=
ode, and things started working.

I had to f=
ix a few lib path issues, but after getting my head around that, most th=
ings seem to work as before - however I don't notice much of an improvem=
ent in execution times, I do see this improvement using 'ab -n 100 -c32'=
:

">Apache + ExecCGI: Requests per second:    13.50 [#/se=
c] (mean)
Apa=
che + mod_perl: Requests per second:    59.81 [#/sec] (mean)r>

This is obviously a good thing.
iv>

I haven't gotten into the preload or DBI sharing =
yet - as that'll end up needing a bit of a rewrite of code to take advan=
tage of. I'd be open to suggestions here from those who have done it in =
the past to save me going down some dead ends :D
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On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 12:49, James Smith <js5-at-sanger.acuk=
> wrote:
ion1">

As welsey said =E2=80=93=
try Registry, that was the standard way of using mod_perl to cache perl=
in the server  =E2=80=93 but your problem might be due to the note=
in PerlRun=E2=80=A6

0/api/ModPerl/PerlRun.html#Description">https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0=
/api/ModPerl/PerlRun.html#Description

r:black;background-color:white;">:12pt;">META: document that for now we don't chdir() into the script's d=
ir, because it affects the whole process under threads.  style=3D"">f;">k.html">ModPerl::PerlRunPrefork
 should
be used by those who run only under prefork MPM.
le=3D"">
{tbh most people don=E2=80=99t use mod perl under threads a=
nyway as there isn=E2=80=99t really a gain from using them}

It =
suggests you use ModPerl/PerlRunPrefork =E2=80=93 as this does an additi=
onal step to cd to the script directory =E2=80=93 which might be your is=
sue=E2=80=A6.

 =
;

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ttom-style:none;border-left-style:none;border-right-color:initial;border=
-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:initial;border-image-source:init=
ial;border-image-slice:initial;border-image-width:initial;border-image-o=
utset:initial;border-image-repeat:initial;border-top-width:1pt;border-to=
p-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(225, 225, 225);padding-top:3pt;paddin=
g-right:0cm;padding-bottom:0cm;padding-left:0cm;">

al">From: Steven=
Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au>
Sent: 07 February 2021 01:00=

To: modperl-at-perl.apache.org
Subject: Moving ExecC=
GI to mod_perl - performance and custom 'modules' [EXT]

=

 

<=
p class=3D"qt-MsoNormal">Hi all,

mal"> 

So for many year=
s I've been slack and writing perl scripts to do various things - but ne=
ver needed more than the normal apache +ExecCGI and Template Toolkit.>

 

ass=3D"qt-MsoNormal">One of my sites has become a bit more popular, so I=
'd like to spend a bit of time on performance. Currently, I'm seeing ~30=
0-400ms of what I believe to be execution time of the script loading, ru=
nning, and then blatting its output to STDOUT
and the browser can go do its thing. 

"qt-MsoNormal"> 

I beli=
eve most of the delay would be to do with loading perl, its modules etc =
etc

 

>

I know that the current trend would be to re-=
write the entire site in a more modern, daemon based solution - and I st=
arted down the Mojolicious path - but the amount of re-writing to save 1=
/3rd of a second seems to be excessive

MsoNormal"> 

Would I be=
correct in thinking that mod_perl would help in this case?

>

 

MsoNormal">I did try a basic test, but I have a 'use functions' in all m=
y scripts that loads a .pm with some global vars and a lot of common sub=
s - and for whatever reason (can't find anything on Google as to why), n=
one of the subs are recognised
in the main script when loaded via ModPerl::PerlRun.

=

 

mal">So throwing it out to the list - am I on the right track? wasting m=
y time? or just a simple mistake?

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If you can take time to rewrite all codes with modPerl handlers, that wi=
ll improve performance a lot.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
> In fact, I just realised that 'ab' test is rather restrictive.... So h=
ere's a bit more of an extended test:
>=20
> # ab -k -n 1000 -c 32
>=20
> Apache + ExecCGI:
> Requests per second: 14.26 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 2244.181 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 70.131 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reque=
sts)
>=20
> Apache + mod_perl (ModPerl::PerlRegistry):=20
> Requests per second: 132.14 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 242.175 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 7.568 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reques=
ts)
>=20
> Interestingly, without Keepalives, the story is much the same:
>=20
> # ab -n 1000 -c 32
>=20
> Apache + ExecCGI:
> Requests per second: 14.15 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 2260.875 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 70.652 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reque=
sts)
>=20
> Apache + mod_perl (ModPerl::PerlRegistry):=20
> Requests per second: 154.48 [#/sec] (mean)
> Time per request: 207.140 [ms] (mean)
> Time per request: 6.473 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reques=
ts)
>=20
> Running some benchmarks across various parts of my site made me realis=
e I also had some RewriteRules in the apache config that still had H=3Dc=
gi-script - changed those to H=3Dperl-script and saw similar improvement=
s:
>=20
> ExecCGI - Requests per second: 11.84 [#/sec] (mean)
> mod_perl - Requests per second: 130.97 [#/sec] (mean)
>=20
> That's quite some gains for a days work.
>=20
> --
> Steven Haigh =F0=9F=93=A7 netwiz-at-crc.id.au =F0=9F=92=BB https://www.cr=
c.id.au
>=20
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 23:58, Steven Haigh wrote:
>> Interestingly, I did get things working with ModPerl::PerlRegistry.
>>=20
>> What I couldn't find *anywhere* is that the data I was loading in Tem=
plate Toolkit was included in the file in the __DATA__ area - which caus=
es mod_perl to fall over!
>>=20
>> The only way I managed to find this was the following error in the *s=
ystem* /var/log/httpd/error_log (didn't show up in the vhost error_log!)=
:
>> readline() on unopened filehandle DATA at /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_per=
l/Template/Provider.pm line 638.
>>=20
>> Took me a LONG time to find a vague post that reading in lines from <=
DATA> kills mod_perl. Not sure why - but I stripped all the templates ou=
t and put them in a file instead and re-wrote that bit of code, and thin=
gs started working.
>>=20
>> I had to fix a few lib path issues, but after getting my head around =
that, most things seem to work as before - however I don't notice much o=
f an improvement in execution times, I do see this improvement using 'ab=
-n 100 -c32':
>>=20
>> Apache + ExecCGI: Requests per second: 13.50 [#/sec] (mean)
>> Apache + mod_perl: Requests per second: 59.81 [#/sec] (mean)
>>=20
>> This is obviously a good thing.
>>=20
>> I haven't gotten into the preload or DBI sharing yet - as that'll end=
up needing a bit of a rewrite of code to take advantage of. I'd be open=
to suggestions here from those who have done it in the past to save me =
going down some dead ends :D
>>=20
>> --
>> Steven Haigh =F0=9F=93=A7 netwiz-at-crc.id.au =F0=9F=92=BB https://www.c=
rc.id.au
>>=20
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 12:49, James Smith wrote:
>>> As welsey said =E2=80=93 try Registry, that was the standard way of =
using mod_perl to cache perl in the server =E2=80=93 but your problem m=
ight be due to the note in PerlRun=E2=80=A6
>>>=20
>>> https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/ModPerl/PerlRun.html#Descriptio=
n
>>> META: document that for now we don't chdir() into the script's dir, =
because it affects the whole process under threads. `ModPerl::PerlRunPre=
fork ` =
should be used by those who run only under prefork MPM.
>>> {tbh most people don=E2=80=99t use mod perl under threads anyway as =
there isn=E2=80=99t really a gain from using them}
>>>=20
>>> It suggests you use ModPerl/PerlRunPrefork =E2=80=93 as this does an=
additional step to cd to the script directory =E2=80=93 which might be =
your issue=E2=80=A6.

>>> =20

>>> *From:* Steven Haigh =20
>>> *Sent:* 07 February 2021 01:00
>>> *To:* modperl-at-perl.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and custom 'modu=
les' [EXT]

>>> =20

>>> Hi all,

>>> =20

>>> So for many years I've been slack and writing perl scripts to do var=
ious things - but never needed more than the normal apache +ExecCGI and =
Template Toolkit.

>>> =20

>>> One of my sites has become a bit more popular, so I'd like to spend =
a bit of time on performance. Currently, I'm seeing ~300-400ms of what I=
believe to be execution time of the script loading, running, and then b=
latting its output to STDOUT and the browser can go do its thing.=20

>>> =20

>>> I believe most of the delay would be to do with loading perl, its mo=
dules etc etc

>>> =20

>>> I know that the current trend would be to re-write the entire site i=
n a more modern, daemon based solution - and I started down the Mojolici=
ous path - but the amount of re-writing to save 1/3rd of a second seems =
to be excessive

>>> =20

>>> Would I be correct in thinking that mod_perl would help in this case=
?

>>> =20

>>> I did try a basic test, but I have a 'use functions' in all my scrip=
ts that loads a .pm with some global vars and a lot of common subs - and=
for whatever reason (can't find anything on Google as to why), none of =
the subs are recognised in the main script when loaded via ModPerl::Perl=
Run.

>>> =20

>>> So throwing it out to the list - am I on the right track? wasting my=
time? or just a simple mistake?

>>> =20

>>> --

>>> Steven Haigh =F0=9F=93=A7 netwiz-at-crc.id.au =F0=9F=92=BB https://www.=
crc.id.au [crc.id.au] s-3A__www.crc.id.au_&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3DD7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0=
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7_FHhBYKW4&s=3DvQDi0ezyEZDOz86GVraerPdT76UjN2in3UdPh8fglRM&e=3D>

>>> -- The Wellcome Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limi=
ted, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company r=
egistered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215=
Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE.

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If you can=
take time to rewrite all codes with modPerl handlers, that will improve=
performance a lot.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, at 9:1=
4 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
tyle=3D"">
In fact, I just re=
alised that 'ab' test is rather restrictive.... So here's a bit more of =
an extended test:

# ab -k -n 1000 -c 32
=

Apache + ExecCGI:
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#/sec] (mean)
e-wrap;">Time per request:       2244.181 [ms] (me=
an)
Time per =
request:       70.131 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent r=
equests)

Apache + mod_per=
l (ModPerl::PerlRegistry): 
e:pre-wrap;">Requests per s=
econd: 132.14 [#/sec] (mean)

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p; 242.175 [ms] (mean)
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s all concurrent requests)

Inte=
restingly, without Keepalives, the story is much the same:
>
# ab -n 1000 -c 32

Apache +=
ExecCGI:
n>Requests per second:    14.15 [#/sec] (mean)
<=
span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;">Time per request:   &nb=
sp;   2260.875 [ms] (mean)
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ean, across all concurrent requests)

=
Apache + mod_perl (ModPerl::PerlRegistry): 
n style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;">Requests per second:   &nb=
sp;154.48 [#/sec] (mean)
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st:       6.473 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent request=
s)

Running some benchmarks across var=
ious parts of my site made me realise I also had some RewriteRules in th=
e apache config that still had H=3Dcgi-script - changed those to H=3Dper=
l-script and saw similar improvements:

>ExecCGI - Requests per sec=
ond:    11.84 [#/sec] (mean)
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bsp;130.97 [#/sec] (mean)

That's quite some=
gains for a days work.
r=3D"auto">

round-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">--
white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Steven Haigh

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pace:pre-wrap;">netwiz-at-crc.id.aubackground-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"> =F0=9F=92=BB tps://www.crc.id.au/" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;">https://www.crc.id=
.au


=
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 23:58, Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.=
au> wrote:
y" dir=3D"auto">
Interestingly, I did get things working with ModPer=
l::PerlRegistry.

What I couldn't find *anyw=
here* is that the data I was loading in Template Toolkit was included in=
the file in the __DATA__ area - which causes mod_perl to fall over!
=

The only way I managed to find this was the fo=
llowing error in the *system* /var/log/httpd/error_log (didn't show up i=
n the vhost error_log!):
re-wrap;">readline() on unopened filehandle DATA at /usr/lib64/pe=
rl5/vendor_perl/Template/Provider.pm line 638.

<=
/div>
Took me a LONG time to find a vague post that reading in lines=
from <DATA> kills mod_perl. Not sure why - but I stripped all the=
templates out and put them in a file instead and re-wrote that bit of c=
ode, and things started working.

I had to f=
ix a few lib path issues, but after getting my head around that, most th=
ings seem to work as before - however I don't notice much of an improvem=
ent in execution times, I do see this improvement using 'ab -n 100 -c32'=
:

">Apache + ExecCGI: Requests per second:    13.50 [#/se=
c] (mean)
Apa=
che + mod_perl: Requests per second:    59.81 [#/sec] (mean)r>

This is obviously a good thing.
iv>

I haven't gotten into the preload or DBI sharing =
yet - as that'll end up needing a bit of a rewrite of code to take advan=
tage of. I'd be open to suggestions here from those who have done it in =
the past to save me going down some dead ends :D
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ap;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
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.au


=
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 12:49, James Smith <js5-at-sanger.acuk=
> wrote:
ion1">

As welsey said =E2=80=93=
try Registry, that was the standard way of using mod_perl to cache perl=
in the server  =E2=80=93 but your problem might be due to the note=
in PerlRun=E2=80=A6

0/api/ModPerl/PerlRun.html#Description">https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0=
/api/ModPerl/PerlRun.html#Description

r:black;background-color:white;">:12pt;">META: document that for now we don't chdir() into the script's d=
ir, because it affects the whole process under threads.  style=3D"">f;">k.html">ModPerl::PerlRunPrefork
 should
be used by those who run only under prefork MPM.
le=3D"">
{tbh most people don=E2=80=99t use mod perl under threads a=
nyway as there isn=E2=80=99t really a gain from using them}

It =
suggests you use ModPerl/PerlRunPrefork =E2=80=93 as this does an additi=
onal step to cd to the script directory =E2=80=93 which might be your is=
sue=E2=80=A6.

 =
;

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ttom-style:none;border-left-style:none;border-right-color:initial;border=
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ial;border-image-slice:initial;border-image-width:initial;border-image-o=
utset:initial;border-image-repeat:initial;border-top-width:1pt;border-to=
p-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(225, 225, 225);padding-top:3pt;paddin=
g-right:0cm;padding-bottom:0cm;padding-left:0cm;">

al">From: Steven=
Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au>
Sent: 07 February 2021 01:00=

To: modperl-at-perl.apache.org
Subject: Moving ExecC=
GI to mod_perl - performance and custom 'modules' [EXT]

=

 

<=
p class=3D"qt-MsoNormal">Hi all,

mal"> 

So for many year=
s I've been slack and writing perl scripts to do various things - but ne=
ver needed more than the normal apache +ExecCGI and Template Toolkit.>

 

ass=3D"qt-MsoNormal">One of my sites has become a bit more popular, so I=
'd like to spend a bit of time on performance. Currently, I'm seeing ~30=
0-400ms of what I believe to be execution time of the script loading, ru=
nning, and then blatting its output to STDOUT
and the browser can go do its thing. 

"qt-MsoNormal"> 

I beli=
eve most of the delay would be to do with loading perl, its modules etc =
etc

 

>

I know that the current trend would be to re-=
write the entire site in a more modern, daemon based solution - and I st=
arted down the Mojolicious path - but the amount of re-writing to save 1=
/3rd of a second seems to be excessive

MsoNormal"> 

Would I be=
correct in thinking that mod_perl would help in this case?

>

 

MsoNormal">I did try a basic test, but I have a 'use functions' in all m=
y scripts that loads a .pm with some global vars and a lot of common sub=
s - and for whatever reason (can't find anything on Google as to why), n=
one of the subs are recognised
in the main script when loaded via ModPerl::PerlRun.

=

 

mal">So throwing it out to the list - am I on the right track? wasting m=
y time? or just a simple mistake?

-signature">

 

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nitial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;backgroun=
d-clip:initial;background-color:white;">--

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nitial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;backgroun=
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  1. 2021-02-01 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #497 - perl.com was hijacked
  2. 2021-02-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Communist Revolution and Agenda - Snowbound
  3. 2021-02-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Prostitution Legalized in NYC
  4. 2021-02-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Risk Free Economy
  5. 2021-02-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Agism in the workplace
  6. 2021-02-01 Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella-at-linaro.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The GNU C Library version 2.33 is now available
  7. 2021-02-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Risk Free Economy
  8. 2021-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccine mutation Details from the UK COVID-19
  9. 2021-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Run Down of Vaccines from the BBC
  10. 2021-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hiring? Join NYU, Fordham,
  11. 2021-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] since it is winter,
  12. 2021-02-01 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  13. 2021-02-01 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  14. 2021-02-04 amdocs-jobnotification-at-noreply.jobs2web.com Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New jobs posted from jobs.amdocs.com
  15. 2021-02-03 Liz Moore via Docs <docs-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Fwd: When will the U.S. get enough
  16. 2021-02-03 Ruben Safir via Docs <docs-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Fwd: When will the U.S. get enough
  17. 2021-02-04 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  18. 2021-02-04 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  19. 2021-02-04 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  20. 2021-02-04 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  21. 2021-02-04 Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5BGimp-user=5D_MAC_alternative_to_G?=
  22. 2021-02-04 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  23. 2021-02-03 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Resizing
  24. 2021-02-03 Jay Smith <jay-at-JaySmith.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Resizing
  25. 2021-02-03 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Gimp Plug Ins
  26. 2021-02-02 From: "M.R.P. zensky via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Gimp Plug Ins
  27. 2021-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The most dangerous phase of our life is seriously
  28. 2021-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How do we organize to reist universal healthcare
  29. 2021-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Don't Let China WIN!!
  30. 2021-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] FIGH FIGHT FIGHT
  31. 2021-02-04 Liam Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  32. 2021-02-04 Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  33. 2021-02-04 Liam Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  34. 2021-02-04 Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  35. 2021-02-04 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  36. 2021-02-04 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still
  37. 2021-02-04 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  38. 2021-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Landlines and Faxes and Security
  39. 2021-02-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Copyright Wars continue
  40. 2021-02-05 Alexander Vdolainen <alex-at-vapaa.xyz> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] How do we organize to reist universal
  41. 2021-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] There is NEVER a plan to set us FREE
  42. 2021-02-06 Judy <judy-at-corozal.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  43. 2021-02-06 nick glos via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Blurring the edges
  44. 2021-02-06 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  45. 2021-02-05 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  46. 2021-02-05 Elle Stone <ellestone-at-ninedegreesbelow.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  47. 2021-02-05 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem
  48. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Put Down Your phone
  49. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: So Many Prizes But So Little Time! Early
  50. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] normal is normal
  51. 2021-02-07 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  52. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [EXT]
  53. 2021-02-07 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  54. 2021-02-07 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  55. 2021-02-07 Adam Prime <adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] (no subject)
  56. 2021-02-06 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  57. 2021-02-06 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  58. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  59. 2021-02-07 akovia via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  60. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  61. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Slide to depression that no stimulus can fix...
  62. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virus Mutation Basics and the Economy
  63. 2021-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] So now where are we at ...
  64. 2021-02-08 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  65. 2021-02-07 montefiore-jobnotification-at-noreply.jobs2web.com Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New jobs posted from careers.montefiore.org
  66. 2021-02-07 RSA / Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim <info-at-kollelauction.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] So Many Prizes... Only 3 Days Left Until The
  67. 2021-02-08 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #498 - Perl.com is back
  68. 2021-02-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  69. 2021-02-08 Erik Lauritsen <eriklauritsen-at-yandex.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Please make an antix-announce
  70. 2021-02-09 Mostafa Ahangarha <ahangarha-at-riseup.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  71. 2021-02-09 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  72. 2021-02-09 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  73. 2021-02-09 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  74. 2021-02-09 Clive Eisen <clive-at-hildebrand.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  75. 2021-02-09 Rafael Caceres <rcaceres-at-aasa.com.pe> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  76. 2021-02-09 Clive Eisen <clive-at-hildebrand.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  77. 2021-02-09 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  78. 2021-02-08 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  79. 2021-02-09 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  80. 2021-02-09 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  81. 2021-02-08 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  82. 2021-02-07 From: "Wesley Peng" <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
  83. 2021-02-08 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  84. 2021-02-08 Steven Haigh <netwiz-at-crc.id.au> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  85. 2021-02-08 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  86. 2021-02-08 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  87. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  88. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  89. 2021-02-07 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  90. 2021-02-07 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  91. 2021-02-07 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  92. 2021-02-07 James Smith <js5-at-sanger.ac.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  93. 2021-02-07 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists-at-wanadoo.fr> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  94. 2021-02-09 From: "Con Edison Marketplace [Masked]" <FWD.41y4n0uw889n-at-opayq.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Don=E2=80=99t_Miss_Our_Best_Deal=3A_?=
  95. 2021-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] milton freedman
  96. 2021-02-09 From: "M.R.P. zensky via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Plain light color with Gimp
  97. 2021-02-07 nick glos via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 113,
  98. 2021-02-08 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with text
  99. 2021-02-07 From: =?utf-8?q?Jehan_Pag=C3=A8s_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and
  100. 2021-02-11 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  101. 2021-02-10 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  102. 2021-02-10 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  103. 2021-02-11 Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an
  104. 2021-02-08 From: =?utf-8?q?Jacques_Le_F=C3=A8vre_via_gimp-user-list?= Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an old
  105. 2021-02-11 Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an
  106. 2021-02-11 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] To the GIMP team - in need of an
  107. 2021-02-11 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  108. 2021-02-11 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  109. 2021-02-10 Stan Pioro via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  110. 2021-02-10 Stan Pioro via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  111. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] I hate Joe Biden - He is a lie sleezeball
  112. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to end trade with china
  113. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Not being silent in the face of broad lies
  114. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The rel cost of lockdowns
  115. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The healthcare economy scam that screws everyone
  116. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] I hate Joe Biden - He is a lie
  117. 2021-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Never trust the Times anyway
  118. 2021-02-12 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  119. 2021-02-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  120. 2021-02-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  121. 2021-02-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  122. 2021-02-12 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  123. 2021-02-11 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  124. 2021-02-11 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Adding a text box
  125. 2021-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Turtle Pond
  126. 2021-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Let something random into your life
  127. 2021-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Roadside Attractions in California
  128. 2021-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Domestic breakdown
  129. 2021-02-15 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  130. 2021-02-14 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  131. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  132. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  133. 2021-02-14 Jeff Pohlmeyer <yetanothergeek-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  134. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  135. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  136. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  137. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  138. 2021-02-14 Kian Kasad <kian-at-kasad.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  139. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  140. 2021-02-14 Kian Kasad <kian-at-kasad.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  141. 2021-02-14 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  142. 2021-02-13 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  143. 2021-02-13 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] lvm2-s6 upgrade "from
  144. 2021-02-15 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  145. 2021-02-14 Alexandre Oliva <lxoliva-at-fsfla.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Linux-libre 5.11-gnu (ilovefs)
  146. 2021-02-15 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  147. 2021-02-15 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health: ICD-10 coding, recipes,
  148. 2021-02-14 Mostafa Ahangarha <ahangarha-at-riseup.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  149. 2021-02-15 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  150. 2021-02-15 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #499 - Farewell Kent Frederic
  151. 2021-02-15 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  152. 2021-02-15 Dudemanguy <dudemanguy-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  153. 2021-02-15 Kian Kasad <kian-at-kasad.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  154. 2021-02-15 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] random boot error ->
  155. 2021-02-15 Sis 3 via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Using overlays in Gimp
  156. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have lived
  157. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have lived
  158. 2021-02-16 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have
  159. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] as we actually already knew because
  160. 2021-02-16 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] as we actually already knew because
  161. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Pandemic Economy - The New Depression Apply Cart
  162. 2021-02-16 Kollel Ner Dovid / Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim <info-at-kollelauction.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Last Chance! Deadline Is Tonight!! Free Trip to
  163. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Where are we at not and how we got here ==>
  164. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have
  165. 2021-02-16 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] as we actually already knew because we have
  166. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Schools are for students or teachers?
  167. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Our Friends in Iran can smell blood in the water..
  168. 2021-02-16 Jason Cooper <jason+artix-at-coldbeach.io> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit for background (boo!)
  169. 2021-02-16 Jason Cooper <jason+artix-at-coldbeach.io> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit for background (boo!)
  170. 2021-02-16 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Using overlays in Gimp
  171. 2021-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Bitcoin Mayheim
  172. 2021-02-17 From: =?utf-8?Q?Hackaday?= <newsletter-at-hackaday.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Lots_of_Clocks=2C_a_Blinky_Skirt=2C_?=
  173. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coming economic troubles
  174. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coming economic troubles
  175. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Aliens are coming... really are.
  176. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coming economic troubles ii
  177. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Bailing out bad left-wing power grabbing policy
  178. 2021-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coumo consipracies
  179. 2021-02-17 From: "Pharmacy Times Continuing Education" <reply-at-email.pharmacytimes.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sunday Symposium: PCSK9
  180. 2021-02-18 Robin Simmons <robin-at-lenkeninternational.co.uk> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Darktable plug-in stopped working
  181. 2021-02-19 Victor Cubelo via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Problem with GIMP Tool
  182. 2021-02-20 Robin Simmons <robin-at-lenkeninternational.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Darktable plug-in stopped working
  183. 2021-02-20 Robin Simmons <robin-at-lenkeninternational.co.uk> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Darktable plug-in stopped working
  184. 2021-02-20 James Curione via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10.22 on iMac
  185. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Israel goes FULL BOOR Facistist Survailence State
  186. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] II - Israel goes FULL BOOR Facistist Survailence
  187. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] III - Israel goes FULL BOOR Facistist Survailence
  188. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] We are on the tipping point...
  189. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Pandemic Economy
  190. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The war on natural gas will soon be coming home
  191. 2021-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Homelessness problem stubburnly gets worst adn
  192. 2021-02-22 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #500 - TPF and TRF
  193. 2021-02-22 Michael Gates via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] import about 400 .svg as layers
  194. 2021-02-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccinations and Lockdowns and the Faucci Fanatism
  195. 2021-02-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Domestic-Terrorism_Bill_Is_=E2=80=98?=
  196. 2021-02-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Domestic-Terrorism_Bill_Is_=E2=80=98?=
  197. 2021-02-23 From: "APhA - American Pharmacists Association" <infocenter-at-aphanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Information from Industry: Single-dose flu
  198. 2021-02-24 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health: MyGNUHealth:
  199. 2021-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] If One Mask works to generate lethal strains,
  200. 2021-02-24 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] If One Mask works to generate lethal
  201. 2021-02-24 From: "Pat Schloss" <pdschloss-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] Updated workshop schedule and databases
  202. 2021-02-25 garpin <garpin-at-protonmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Possible GPL violation on Mac App Store
  203. 2021-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cracks in the use of executive power coming fro
  204. 2021-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Election irregularities on a regular schedule..
  205. 2021-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] We need to end our trade with China
  206. 2021-02-27 Qontinuum <qontinuum.dev-at-protonmail.ch> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] New Artix mirror
  207. 2021-02-26 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  208. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mars
  209. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Rose Colored Racism
  210. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 being used as the death of the free and
  211. 2021-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 being used as the death of the free and
  212. 2021-02-27 Qontinuum <qontinuum.dev-at-protonmail.ch> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] New Artix mirror
  213. 2021-02-16 Jason Cooper <jason+artix-at-coldbeach.io> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit for background (boo!)
  214. 2021-02-22 Kevin Payne via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone
  215. 2021-02-21 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone
  216. 2021-02-20 Ross Martinek <triarius-at-att.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10.22 on iMac
  217. 2021-02-21 From: "M.R.P. zensky via gimp-user-list" <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone
  218. 2021-02-23 Wesley Peng <wesley-at-pengfamily.de> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] modperl vs fastcgi
  219. 2021-02-19 Charles Pigott <cpigott-at-rapitasystems.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] SIGSEGV crash due to undefined behaviour when
  220. 2021-02-12 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  221. 2021-02-09 Dave Morgan <dave-at-1001111.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  222. 2021-02-11 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  223. 2021-02-12 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  224. 2021-02-22 Charles Pigott <cpigott-at-rapitasystems.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] SIGSEGV crash due to undefined behaviour when
  225. 2021-02-22 Steve Hay <steve.m.hay-at-googlemail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] SIGSEGV crash due to undefined behaviour when
  226. 2021-02-11 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and

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