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MESSAGE
DATE 2025-08-31
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Beato and the Copyright Crooks trolling youtube
This is making the rounds now, although I am not completely happy with
what is being reported. Slashdot has posted it:

https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/25/08/31/045201/rick-beato-vs-umg-fighting-copyright-claims-over-music-clips-on-youtube

It is worth attention. The problem directly affects software writers
and Free Software development. It goes way back and the source of the
problem is often not addressed. The problem here isn't youtube, per
see, but the Bern Convention and the DMCA. It is the law that is raping
these valued contributes to our culture. Beato is a very
technologically minded musician and he strips music to chord
progressions and the historical developments of recorded music. It is
enlightening and very valuable. He has also done numerous interviews.

The problem has been that industry rides in with a high horse declaring
their moral superiority and high ground on these issues, when they are
really CROOKS and take advantage of our legal system to strip the public
of their fair use rights, the right to educate, the right to develop,
the right participate in our culture.

They, that is UMG et al, have claimed that fair use is ONLY a legal
defense against copy right violation, and not a real right.

That is wrong. And for decades now it has needed to be clarified that
copyright violations need to PROVE that are not fair use. The
presumption has to be that use of copyrighted material is Fair Use,
until it is proven otherwise. Laws like the DMCA do it backwards.

To make matters worst, any software that is used to access copyrighted
material without the expressed permition of the copyright hold is
considered criminal under the law. That is a complete attack on the
entirety of software use and development, and goes to the heart of Free
Software licenses and Free Software development. Beato and company are
just waking up to how dangerous this is to the public and their own
private interests. They are very late to the game.

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