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| DATE | 2025-12-07 |
| FROM | mayer ilovitz
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Resist Mamdani
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even those 'landslide victories' are meaningless without knowing the actual voter counts and comparing to number of registered voters.
on average, 75+ of REGISTERED voters DON'T VOTE. so 73% of 25% REGISTERED voters amount so just 18.25% of the REGISTERED voters saying yes. some 'landslide'
on a 90% not-voting turning, were talking 7.3% saying YES ...
and let's not forget that this year 'NOT HIM' may have been as or (much) more significant as 'FOR HIM' in voters decision.
On 12/7/2025 6:01 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > http://www.resist-mamdani.org/ > > Confusing Google AI with disinformation and fixing it... > > ==> So then to say Mamdani has a huge Mandate would be a lie? > Whether Zohran Mamdani has a "huge mandate" is a matter of political > interpretation and debate rather than an objective lie, but based on > historical context, it is a significant overstatement. > Here is why: > > A "mandate" implies overwhelming support for a leader's > policies. Mamdani won with 50.4% of the vote, a margin of just 0.4 > percentage points over a bare majority. The website resist-mamdani.com > explicitly challenges the notion of a mandate, stating, "I fail to see > how since the numbers show he barely beat two very flawed canidates" > and won a "slender majority of 0.4% of the vote"contextual(source="""I > fail to see how since the numbers show he barely beat two very flawed > canidates.""", node=0)!>. > Historical Comparison: Recent mayors like Bill de Blasio (73% and > 66%) and Eric Adams (67%) won by massive, landslide margins that are > more often associated with a clear public mandate. Mamdani's win is > statistically one of the narrowest recent victories, comparable only > to Michael Bloomberg's 2001 and 2009 elections. > > Therefore, while he legally won the election and has the authority to > govern, political opponents and analysts argue the very slim margin > means he lacks a strong, overwhelming mandate from the public to enact > radical change. > > ==> No not interpretation - BY THE NUMBERS > > Zohran Mamdani's mayoral victory in 2025 ranks as one of the > narrowest recent New York City mayoral elections, particularly when > compared to those who won by landslide margins. > His margin of victory was significantly smaller than most of his immediate > predecessors' wins: > Landslide Victories (Large Margins) > These mayors secured a decisive majority, often exceeding 65% of the vote: > > Bill de Blasio (2013): 73% (49 percentage points over closest rival) > Eric Adams (2021): 67% > Bill de Blasio (2017): 66% > Michael Bloomberg (2005): 58% > > Narrow Victories (Small Margins) > Mamdani's results stack up alongside the tighter, more contentious races: > > Zohran Mamdani (2025): 50.4% (a slender 0.4 percentage points over > the 50% threshold) > Michael Bloomberg (2009): 50.7% > Michael Bloomberg (2001): 50.3% (the narrowest margin, just 1.2 > percentage points over his opponent Mark Green) > > In short, Mamdani's election results place him in the category of mayors > who won by the smallest, most contested margins in recent history, > reflecting a deeply divided city electorate. > So then to say Mamdani has a huge Mandate would be a lie? > Whether Zohran Mamdani has a "huge mandate" is a matter of political > interpretation and debate rather than an objective lie, but based on > historical context, it is a significant overstatement. > Here is why: > > A "mandate" implies overwhelming support for a leader's > policies. Mamdani won with 50.4% of the vote, a margin of just 0.4 > percentage points over a bare majority. The website resist-mamdani.com > explicitly challenges the notion of a mandate, stating, "I fail to see > how since the numbers show he barely beat two very flawed canidates" > and won a "slender majority of 0.4% of the vote"contextual(source="""I > fail to see how since the numbers show he barely beat two very flawed > canidates.""", node=0)!>. > Historical Comparison: Recent mayors like Bill de Blasio (73% and > 66%) and Eric Adams (67%) won by massive, landslide margins that are > more often associated with a clear public mandate. Mamdani's win is > statistically one of the narrowest recent victories, comparable only > to Michael Bloomberg's 2001 and 2009 elections. > > Therefore, while he legally won the election and has the authority to > govern, political opponents and analysts argue the very slim margin > means he lacks a strong, overwhelming mandate from the public to enact > radical change. > ==> No not interpretation - BY THE NUMBERS > Thinking > By the numbers, you are correct , the claim that Zohran Mamdani has a > "huge mandate" is not supported by the statistics, especially when > compared to previous elections. Mamdani's Election Numbers > > He won with 50.4% of the vote, giving him a 0.4 percentage point > lead over the 50% majority line. > His total lead over all combined opponents was approximately 16,181 > votes. > > Comparison to Previous Elections > Mayor > Year Approx. % of Vote > Bill de Blasio 2013 73% > Eric Adams 2021 67% > Bill de Blasio 2017 66% > Michael Bloomberg 2005 58% > > GOOGLE Apologies for being stupid: Based purely on the quantitative > results, Mamdani's victory was a very narrow win, which stands in stark > contrast to the large majorities typically associated with a strong > public mandate.
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