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MESSAGE
DATE 2026-05-06
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] amicus - complaint cleaned version...

I haven't seen the rewrite so I assume at this point that thi is not
going to work out. This is one of these cases where I can't do
everythhing myself and need colaberation with others, otherwise I would
do it myself and just submit it.

OK - I tried.

Good luck

Reuvain


On 5/5/26 1:59 PM, Ronald D. Coleman wrote:
> Ruben, can we set up a call for this afternoon?
>
> https://calendly.com/ronaldcoleman/half-hour-meeting-with-ron-coleman
>
> Ronald D. Coleman
> COLEMAN LAW FIRM, PC
> 50 Park Place, Suite 1105 
> Newark, NJ 07102
> 973-264-9611
> Admitted to practice in New Jersey and New York 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben Safir
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2026 1:23 PM
> To: Ronald D. Coleman
> Cc: Ruben Safir ; Marc John Randazza ; Hangout ; rms ; Rick Moen ; Itka
> Subject: Re: amicus - complaint cleaned version...
>
> FWIW - I haven't seen the paper yet
>
>
> Reuvain
>
>
> PS - I tried the phone number but it was hard for them to take a message for you without a lot of questions that I don't have answers for.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 03, 2026 at 03:41:09AM +0000, Ronald D. Coleman wrote:
>> I can make this work. I'll get a revision to you early tomorrow
>> afternoon
>>
>>
>> Ronald D. Coleman
>>
>> COLEMAN LAW FIRM, PC
>> 50 Park Place, Suite 1105
>>
>> Newark, NJ 07102
>> 973-264-9611
>>
>> Admitted to practice in New Jersey and New York
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Ruben Safir
>> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2026 4:04:37 AM
>> To: Ronald D. Coleman ; Marc John Randazza
>> ; Hangout ; rms ;
>> Rick Moen ; Itka
>> Subject: Re: amicus - complaint cleaned version...
>>
>> I think this is a problem:
>>
>> "It is equally committed, however, to preserving the fair use
>> defense—copyright’s “built-in First Amendment accommodation,” Eldred v.
>> Ashcroft, 537 U.S. 186, 219 (2003)—without which copyright would lose
>> its constitutional grounding."
>>
>>
>> NYFU does not believe that fair use is a defense against copyright
>> violations. We think it is inherent property of free speech and
>> protection and security of ones private papers. All published and
>> available public works have fair use as an integral component. You
>> can't have copyright without fair use if you expect to support human
>> rights as they are defined in the constititional ammedments, and as
>> the public has come to expect in the exercise of their day to day freedom.
>> And that is the problem, in a nutshell. We submit that human beings
>> can not possibly communication and participate in society without free
>> access to the human culture in which we live, any more than a fish can
>> live outside of water.
>>
>> We think that the public has a natural and inaleanable constitional
>> right, enshrined under the 1st and 4th amendment, to access and use of
>> all materials and that copyright holders, in any pursuit for damages
>> under copyright grants, (any copyright law) needs to prove that any
>> use was not fair use, or they have no case, not the other way around.
>>
>> Furthermore, the abuse of copyright law to restrict a fair use of
>> material in an attempt to create exanded rights, never intended by the
>> constitution, to non-related legal actions, as in this case seems
>> which seems to be an attempt to suppress evidence in a legal matter,
>> should be strongly rebuted by the court and such an abuse of copyright
>> should cause punitive damages, to include the payment of legal fees to
>> defend such matters, which is a completely inappropriate use of a copyright.
>>
>> Copyright is a limited grant for business purposes to promote the
>> creation of useful invention and works, and never intended to suppress
>> evidence of wrong doing.
>>
>> If my understanding of the specific facts of this case is wrong, my
>> apologies, but we stand, regardless, behind this legal principle.
>>
>> We can't have a situation where copyright holders are sueing the
>> public willie-nillie everytime a published work in the public sphere
>> is used in a manner objectionable to the copyright holder. It will be
>> and it is currently, total chaos.
>>
>> Reuvain
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/26 1:41 PM, Ronald D. Coleman wrote:
>>> Maybe I sent to everyone EXCEPT Ruben. I just re-sent it.
>>>
>>> Ronald D. Coleman
>>> COLEMAN LAW FIRM, PC
>>> 50 Park Place, Suite 1105
>>> Newark, NJ 07102
>>> 973-264-9611
>>> Admitted to practice in New Jersey and New York
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marc John Randazza
>>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2026 1:36 PM
>>> To: Ruben Safir
>>> Cc: Ruben Safir ; Ronald D. Coleman
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: amicus
>>>
>>> Wanna make sure you guys are not miscommunicating because Ron sent
>>> it to you. Maybe it’s in a spam folder or something
>>>
>>>
>>> Marc John Randazza, JD, MAMC, LLM
>>>
>>> Randazza Legal Group
>>>
>>> Las Vegas - Gloucester - Miami
>>>
>>> Sent from iPhone (maybe even using Siri). If the message is at all intelligible, it is a minor miracle.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Il giorno 1 mag 2026, alle ore 12:58, Ruben Safir ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 12:31:57PM -0400, Marc Randazza wrote:
>>>>> all set?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't heard anything back from him yet. He asked for
>>>> background info. I gave it to him and then he asked me what we
>>>> wanted done :(
>>>>
>>>> I so told him to write the amius and we'll sign it. But he then
>>>> went radio silent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> *Marc John Randazza, JD, MAMC, LLM* *| *Randazza Legal Group*
>>>>> 8991 W. Flamingo Road, Unit B, Las Vegas, NV 89147
>>>>> 30 Western Avenue, Gloucester, MA 01930
>>>>> 2 S Biscayne Boulevard, Suite 2680, Miami, FL 33131
>>>>> Tel: 702-420-2001 | Email: mjr-at-randazza.com Firm Offices - Las
>>>>> Vegas
>>>>> | Miami | New England ______________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> * Licensed to practice law in Arizona, California, Florida,
>>>>> Massachusetts, and Nevada.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn,
>> like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the
>> world - RI Safir 1998
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mrbrklyn.com&d
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>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but
>> incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mrbrklyn.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=VVbV5ht1vRGQt5SRJ8brlLM6OLtqVjPlCSmjsHlXyso&m=YGOQnpWfLH9CS6aQfAJ6llBhmzpuDPA_KNCZL53mWynb7DNk0DW21b7iSdwiEHEV&s=ss2DDsbUNLKhRWSVPQdvffnPSsFnL8QE3bvsFGJzU1Y&e=
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nylxs.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=VVbV5ht1vRGQt5SRJ8brlLM6OLtqVjPlCSmjsHlXyso&m=YGOQnpWfLH9CS6aQfAJ6llBhmzpuDPA_KNCZL53mWynb7DNk0DW21b7iSdwiEHEV&s=u6AH6Fjw94fkqNwuVjiDmVQeh4oF4QBzrWELSobGCa4&e= - Leadership Development in Free Software https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.mrbrklyn.com_resources&d=DwIDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=VVbV5ht1vRGQt5SRJ8brlLM6OLtqVjPlCSmjsHlXyso&m=YGOQnpWfLH9CS6aQfAJ6llBhmzpuDPA_KNCZL53mWynb7DNk0DW21b7iSdwiEHEV&s=IVY5JTRNkQqKYd5cCwfz57-aLOSPxxwiM2x7V1hlWno&e= - Unpublished Archive https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.coinhangout.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=VVbV5ht1vRGQt5SRJ8brlLM6OLtqVjPlCSmjsHlXyso&m=YGOQnpWfLH9CS6aQfAJ6llBhmzpuDPA_KNCZL53mWynb7DNk0DW21b7iSdwiEHEV&s=n1Q3E7K3wCzgCEknVBXByoW4bvpkzRSgCnI2NF-xYbo&e= - coins!
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>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>


--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

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Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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