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| DATE | 2026-05-07 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] amicus - complaint cleaned version...
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On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 08:14:50AM -0400, Marc Randazza wrote: > I'm confused. If I simplify what I think is happening here: > > 1. This decision strengthens fair use. > 2. If the upcoming decision goes the right way, it will greatly strengthen > fair use, and will incentivize the defense of fair use, rather than > surrendering fair use fights. > 3. The organization prefers a wider weakening of copyright > 4. Therefore, supporting this decision does not go far enough > 5. Accordingly, the choice being made is to not support the decision > supporting fair use, because it wouldn't actually abolish enough copyright > problems. > > Do I pretty much follow? >
None of this is what is happpening here. We've been at this for 30+ years, and this is not our first go around. I am going to pass on any evaluations of this court case, its outcomes and future impacts. It is not relevent to getting the Amius that you desired. I am focusing on what we are doing here and what can be accomplished HERE.
The original document says that NY Fair Use agrees with the legal doctrine that fair use is limted to a legal defense in copyright cases. NY Fair Use, and no other advocates that I am aware of, can agree to that.
A rewrite was promised, but I haven't seen it. At this point I don't expect to see it. So I have nothing to endorse.
So, that it where it is at.
I have other things that need my attention, like my patients in the Pharmacy, and my grandchild in Israel who are being targeted by Hezbullah for their death and such things, a Mayor who promotes genocide of the Jewish people and is a Bolshavick. So this gets a fair slice of my attention, but not infinite. I have immediate things that need my attnetion that directly affect my quality of life and my families survival.
Right now I have no acceptable document to sign off on. I could write one myself, but it would still need a person in the bar to submit it.
Reuvain
> On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 7:40 PM Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > I haven't seen the rewrite so I assume at this point that thi is not > > going to work out. This is one of these cases where I can't do > > everythhing myself and need colaberation with others, otherwise I would > > do it myself and just submit it. > > > > OK - I tried. > > > > Good luck > > > > Reuvain > > > > > > On 5/5/26 1:59 PM, Ronald D. Coleman wrote: > > > Ruben, can we set up a call for this afternoon? > > > > > > https://calendly.com/ronaldcoleman/half-hour-meeting-with-ron-coleman > > > > > > Ronald D. Coleman > > > COLEMAN LAW FIRM, PC > > > 50 Park Place, Suite 1105 > > > Newark, NJ 07102 > > > 973-264-9611 > > > Admitted to practice in New Jersey and New York > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ruben Safir > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2026 1:23 PM > > > To: Ronald D. Coleman > > > Cc: Ruben Safir ; Marc John Randazza < > > mjr-at-randazza.com>; Hangout ; rms ; Rick > > Moen ; Itka > > > Subject: Re: amicus - complaint cleaned version... > > > > > > FWIW - I haven't seen the paper yet > > > > > > > > > Reuvain > > > > > > > > > PS - I tried the phone number but it was hard for them to take a message > > for you without a lot of questions that I don't have answers for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 03, 2026 at 03:41:09AM +0000, Ronald D. Coleman wrote: > > >> I can make this work. I'll get a revision to you early tomorrow > > >> afternoon > > >> > > >> > > >> Ronald D. Coleman > > >> > > >> COLEMAN LAW FIRM, PC > > >> 50 Park Place, Suite 1105 > > >> > > >> Newark, NJ 07102 > > >> 973-264-9611 > > >> > > >> Admitted to practice in New Jersey and New York > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> From: Ruben Safir > > >> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2026 4:04:37 AM > > >> To: Ronald D. Coleman ; Marc John Randazza > > >> ; Hangout ; rms ; > > >> Rick Moen ; Itka > > >> Subject: Re: amicus - complaint cleaned version... > > >> > > >> I think this is a problem: > > >> > > >> "It is equally committed, however, to preserving the fair use > > >> defense—copyright’s “built-in First Amendment accommodation,” Eldred v. > > >> Ashcroft, 537 U.S. 186, 219 (2003)—without which copyright would lose > > >> its constitutional grounding." > > >> > > >> > > >> NYFU does not believe that fair use is a defense against copyright > > >> violations. We think it is inherent property of free speech and > > >> protection and security of ones private papers. All published and > > >> available public works have fair use as an integral component. You > > >> can't have copyright without fair use if you expect to support human > > >> rights as they are defined in the constititional ammedments, and as > > >> the public has come to expect in the exercise of their day to day > > freedom. > > >> And that is the problem, in a nutshell. We submit that human beings > > >> can not possibly communication and participate in society without free > > >> access to the human culture in which we live, any more than a fish can > > >> live outside of water. > > >> > > >> We think that the public has a natural and inaleanable constitional > > >> right, enshrined under the 1st and 4th amendment, to access and use of > > >> all materials and that copyright holders, in any pursuit for damages > > >> under copyright grants, (any copyright law) needs to prove that any > > >> use was not fair use, or they have no case, not the other way around. > > >> > > >> Furthermore, the abuse of copyright law to restrict a fair use of > > >> material in an attempt to create exanded rights, never intended by the > > >> constitution, to non-related legal actions, as in this case seems > > >> which seems to be an attempt to suppress evidence in a legal matter, > > >> should be strongly rebuted by the court and such an abuse of copyright > > >> should cause punitive damages, to include the payment of legal fees to > > >> defend such matters, which is a completely inappropriate use of a > > copyright. > > >> > > >> Copyright is a limited grant for business purposes to promote the > > >> creation of useful invention and works, and never intended to suppress > > >> evidence of wrong doing. > > >> > > >> If my understanding of the specific facts of this case is wrong, my > > >> apologies, but we stand, regardless, behind this legal principle. > > >> > > >> We can't have a situation where copyright holders are sueing the > > >> public willie-nillie everytime a published work in the public sphere > > >> is used in a manner objectionable to the copyright holder. It will be > > >> and it is currently, total chaos. > > >> > > >> Reuvain > > >> > > >> > > >> On 5/1/26 1:41 PM, Ronald D. Coleman wrote: > > >>> Maybe I sent to everyone EXCEPT Ruben. I just re-sent it. > > >>> > > >>> Ronald D. Coleman > > >>> COLEMAN LAW FIRM, PC > > >>> 50 Park Place, Suite 1105 > > >>> Newark, NJ 07102 > > >>> 973-264-9611 > > >>> Admitted to practice in New Jersey and New York > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Marc John Randazza > > >>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2026 1:36 PM > > >>> To: Ruben Safir > > >>> Cc: Ruben Safir ; Ronald D. Coleman > > >>> > > >>> Subject: Re: amicus > > >>> > > >>> Wanna make sure you guys are not miscommunicating because Ron sent > > >>> it to you. Maybe it’s in a spam folder or something > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Marc John Randazza, JD, MAMC, LLM > > >>> > > >>> Randazza Legal Group > > >>> > > >>> Las Vegas - Gloucester - Miami > > >>> > > >>> Sent from iPhone (maybe even using Siri). If the message is at all > > intelligible, it is a minor miracle. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Il giorno 1 mag 2026, alle ore 12:58, Ruben Safir > > ha scritto: > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 12:31:57PM -0400, Marc Randazza wrote: > > >>>>> all set? > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I haven't heard anything back from him yet. He asked for > > >>>> background info. I gave it to him and then he asked me what we > > >>>> wanted done :( > > >>>> > > >>>> I so told him to write the amius and we'll sign it. But he then > > >>>> went radio silent > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ______________________________________ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> *Marc John Randazza, JD, MAMC, LLM* *| *Randazza Legal Group* > > >>>>> 8991 W. 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> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.brooklyn-2Dliving.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=VVbV5ht1vRGQt5SRJ8brlLM6OLtqVjPlCSmjsHlXyso&m=YGOQnpWfLH9CS6aQfAJ6llBhmzpuDPA_KNCZL53mWynb7DNk0DW21b7iSdwiEHEV&s=LXO52yPaqylMPsLieAk1MBG3bs7MfEj78RId-xB06II&e= > > > > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but > > incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > > > > > > > > > -- > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > > > > > -- > > ______________________________________ > > *Marc John Randazza, JD, MAMC, LLM* *| *Randazza Legal Group* > 8991 W. Flamingo Road, Unit B, Las Vegas, NV 89147 > 30 Western Avenue, Gloucester, MA 01930 > 2 S Biscayne Boulevard, Suite 2680, Miami, FL 33131 > Tel: 702-420-2001 | Email: mjr-at-randazza.com > Firm Offices - Las Vegas | Miami | New England > ______________________________________ > > * Licensed to practice law in Arizona, California, Florida, Massachusetts, > and Nevada.
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