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Which group would accept the principle that fairuse is only a legal defense against copyright infringment under section 107?
 

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Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] amicus - complaint cleaned version...


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I think I see why you're unhappy with the stance of that amicus brief.

You criticize the existing copyright law on principle and advocate

substantial changes. (So do I -- see

https://gnu.org/philosophy/copyright-vs-community.html.)



The text that was posted limits itself to the narrow the question of

whether a defendant who prevails based on fair use is entitled to have

per legal fees paid by the plaintiff. It does not criticize any of

the framework that that is part of. So it disagrees with your broader

stance, and with mine.



I expect that the lawyers wrote it that way because they believe that

gives the best chance of helping the defendant. If so, I trust that

they know what they are doing. So I hope that amicus does get filed.



But I would not put my name to it, because that would imply I agree

with the assumptions it is based on. I do not want people to think

that.



Maybe this point applies to you, too.



I hope there are others who could submit it, others who don't object

to the basic stance as we do.





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Which group would accept the principle that fairuse is only a legal defense against copyright infringment under section 107?
 

Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2026 at 12:04 AM

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To: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>

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I think I see why you're unhappy with the stance of that amicus brief.

You criticize the existing copyright law on principle and advocate

substantial changes. (So do I -- see

https://gnu.org/philosophy/copyright-vs-community.html.)



The text that was posted limits itself to the narrow the question of

whether a defendant who prevails based on fair use is entitled to have

per legal fees paid by the plaintiff. It does not criticize any of

the framework that that is part of. So it disagrees with your broader

stance, and with mine.



I expect that the lawyers wrote it that way because they believe that

gives the best chance of helping the defendant. If so, I trust that

they know what they are doing. So I hope that amicus does get filed.



But I would not put my name to it, because that would imply I agree

with the assumptions it is based on. I do not want people to think

that.



Maybe this point applies to you, too.



I hope there are others who could submit it, others who don't object

to the basic stance as we do.





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Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)

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