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On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 11:58=E2=80=AFPM Richard Stallman wrot=
e:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>
> > 1. This decision strengthens fair use.
> > 2. If the upcoming decision goes the right way, it will greatly
> strengthen
> > fair use, and will incentivize the defense of fair use, rather than
> > surrendering fair use fights.
> > 3. The organization prefers a wider weakening of copyright
> > 4. Therefore, supporting this decision does not go far enough
>
> I think this far you correctly understand Ruben's position. But I
> think this item
>
> > 5. Accordingly, the choice being made is to not support the decision
> > supporting fair use, because it wouldn't actually abolish enough
> copyright
> > problems.
>
> is a misunderstanding of what he said about that point.
>
> I don't speak for Ruben, but looking at what he wrote, I think what he
> objects to is NOT that the draft advocates less change than he seeks,
> but rather that it explicitly endorses one aspect of current copyright
> law which he disagrees with. (Specifically, it endorses having
> fair uses only as a defense against accusations of infringement
> rather than as an explicit right.)
>
> His attitude makes sense to me. I could support at action which
> refrains, for tactical reasons, from demanding a change I advocate,
> but if it asserted something contrary to my views, I could not support
> it.
>
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
> Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
> Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
>
>
>
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His attitude makes sense to me.=C2=A0 I could support at action which
refrains, for tactical reasons, from demanding a change I advocate,
but if it asserted something contrary to my views, I could not support
it.
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Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (errer" target=3D"_blank">https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://internethalloffame.org)
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On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 11:58=E2=80=AFPM Richard Stallman wrot=
e:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>
> > 1. This decision strengthens fair use.
> > 2. If the upcoming decision goes the right way, it will greatly
> strengthen
> > fair use, and will incentivize the defense of fair use, rather than
> > surrendering fair use fights.
> > 3. The organization prefers a wider weakening of copyright
> > 4. Therefore, supporting this decision does not go far enough
>
> I think this far you correctly understand Ruben's position. But I
> think this item
>
> > 5. Accordingly, the choice being made is to not support the decision
> > supporting fair use, because it wouldn't actually abolish enough
> copyright
> > problems.
>
> is a misunderstanding of what he said about that point.
>
> I don't speak for Ruben, but looking at what he wrote, I think what he
> objects to is NOT that the draft advocates less change than he seeks,
> but rather that it explicitly endorses one aspect of current copyright
> law which he disagrees with. (Specifically, it endorses having
> fair uses only as a defense against accusations of infringement
> rather than as an explicit right.)
>
> His attitude makes sense to me. I could support at action which
> refrains, for tactical reasons, from demanding a change I advocate,
> but if it asserted something contrary to my views, I could not support
> it.
>
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
> Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
> Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
>
>
>
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______________________________________
*Marc John Randazza, JD, MAMC, LLM* *| *Randazza Legal Group*
8991 W. Flamingo Road, Unit B, Las Vegas, NV 89147
30 Western Avenue, Gloucester, MA 01930
2 S Biscayne Boulevard, Suite 2680, Miami, FL 33131
Tel: 702-420-2001 | Email: mjr-at-randazza.com
Firm Offices - Las Vegas | Miami | New England
______________________________________
* Licensed to practice law in Arizona, California, Florida, Massachusetts,
and Nevada.
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,204);padding-left:1ex">[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: ple=
ase consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<=
br>
=C2=A0 > 1.=C2=A0 This decision strengthens fair use.
=C2=A0 > 2.=C2=A0 If the upcoming decision goes the right way, it will g=
reatly strengthen
=C2=A0 > fair use, and will incentivize the defense of fair use, rather =
than
=C2=A0 > surrendering fair use fights.
=C2=A0 > 3.=C2=A0 The organization prefers a wider weakening of copyrigh=
t
=C2=A0 > 4.=C2=A0 Therefore, supporting this decision does not go far en=
ough
I think this far you correctly understand Ruben's position.=C2=A0 But I=
think this item
=C2=A0 > 5.=C2=A0 Accordingly, the choice being made is to not support t=
he decision
=C2=A0 > supporting fair use, because it wouldn't actually abolish e=
nough copyright
=C2=A0 > problems.
is a misunderstanding of what he said about that point.
I don't speak for Ruben, but looking at what he wrote, I think what he<=
br>
objects to is NOT that the draft advocates less change than he seeks,
but rather that it explicitly endorses one aspect of current copyright
law which he disagrees with.=C2=A0 (Specifically, it endorses having
fair uses only as a defense against accusations of infringement
rather than as an explicit right.)
His attitude makes sense to me.=C2=A0 I could support at action which
refrains, for tactical reasons, from demanding a change I advocate,
but if it asserted something contrary to my views, I could not support
it.
--
Dr Richard Stallman (rget=3D"_blank">https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (errer" target=3D"_blank">https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://internethalloffame.org)
=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">--
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=
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30 Western Avenue, =
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