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| DATE | 2009-11-10 |
| FROM | Paul Robert Marino
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP Mini 110
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From lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Nov 10 20:27:00 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id nAB1QwUj012188 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:27:00 -0500 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id nAB1QwfT012187 for hangout-outgoings; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:26:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lestw-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id nAB1Qtd1012184 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:26:57 -0500 Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so110650qwb.11 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:26:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VwrPdTtu2mv41Q7TVn93dlbmnVXBYkkBAKTQq+oirTk=; b=Qis8mCxKOndhyi3j04xnhmny9uBOO5a9BVpOFsQlr/XMzqwH6pqAhTO/XEvnrLa/cG vk6d6DCZqatBTn92s3KCQmRNVHOyZ8zzkhhmgs0HmJDRLPfTEuqfn1hAHbhdstaLRJ6k uxZyZpF1KxEkqf+16tjKEMUOA3zIews0hPQAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TormaEJeyq3UBXToukPqG0f11n8tzmKqFkPV8QjbFU98Zl/x6F2vt0WX8Azxxz3apt XlBe4rgUtp55QRxjlSdbWhYAZWXV2R8jcK6ssmBhGNUrIHM02ZlK6SGJrECnoOL8wkKf b7GjcZtDYllZHnewFRalk5MSQRX+Xsn6PAyQU= Received: by 10.224.114.30 with SMTP id c30mr419207qaq.345.1257899216761; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? (cpe-24-90-197-206.nyc.res.rr.com [24.90.197.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm883873qyk.5.2009.11.10.16.26.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:26:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFA04C4.50109-at-gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:26:44 -0500 From: Paul Robert Marino User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP Mini 110 References: <20091109051118.GB13245-at-panix.com> <4AF81CDE.6090209-at-gmail.com> <20091110045004.GC13245-at-panix.com> In-Reply-To: <20091110045004.GC13245-at-panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Ruben Safir wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:45:02AM -0500, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > >> Ive been running Vector (http://vectorlinux.com/) on my hp mini is a >> really nice Slackware variant I think you would like it. plus all of the >> hardware on the hp mini is easily to configure on this distro. >> although I warn you it does not come with all of the pre-compiled >> software to fully utilize the bluetooth properly. >> one warning though my hp mini was last years model that came >> pre-installed with a Ubuntu variant the hardware on the 110 is slightly >> different. >> >> Ruben Safir wrote: >> >>> I picked up a HP Mini 110 for Shani and I'm having real trouble >>> setting up SuSE on it. It reboots after the packages download >>> (I'm using the new 11.2 opensuse) and mkinird doesn't seem to make >>> a usable initrd image. And mkinitrd doesn;t work manually either. >>> >>> There was a 11.2 RC2, the last stage before the anounced 11.2 release >>> which folks reported as being fairly steady, and it disapeared from the >>> net. I'm really having troubles with this and I've loaded systems on >>> just about everything under the sun. >>> >>> Ruben >>> >>> > > > It seems to be very different since I can't get the initrd to install or > grub to install correctly either. > > Ruben > > I checked it out and it seems there use to be an MI (Mobile Internet) edition http://myhpmini.com/2009/11/hp-mini-110-mi-edition-discontinued/ which is the version that runs their modified Ubuntu variant. so the hardware is GNU/Linux compatible. I think your problem is a SUSE issue. I think its finally time you give up on SuSE its not the distro it once was and as much as i hoped it would opensuse hasn't fixed that. there are no reports of issues with GRUB reported on HP Mini 110 boxes as a matter of fact as far as i can tell most distros work very well on it except SUSE. see http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090928
I know your issue with mkinitrd is a SUSE issue because i ran in to it when i briefly tried opensuse 11.0 on my HP Pavilion Elite desktop and its not just a HP hardware issue there were a lot of complaints about it at the time and its not a bug its a patch to prevent users from accidentally damaging the stock initrd image. since version 10 they have gone to great lengths to make it easier for their individual driver developers able to work independently, however an intended side effect is also that it make it extremely difficult to compile your own kernel because the stock kernel source is incomplete and they have extensively modified mkinitrd to work only with their own tools. the reason why they did this is an assumption that users should not compile their own kernel's or kernel drivers. Ruben I know you like to modify your kernel among other things but SuSE (or SUSE as its now called) is now actively designed to prevent the average user from doing that. also SUSE is nolonger a reliable distro many of thier patches introduce sever bugs to the kernel and some of the core utilities.
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