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DATE 2011-10-31
FROM Elfen Magix
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It never left.=0A=0AAs a former auxiliary of some 10 years+, I can tell you=
as a fact, it never left.=0AIts been under-reported, crimes downgraded to =
misdemeanors or less. Rapes become Sexual Assaults, Assault and Larecenies =
(Muggings) become Theft of property under $100. Even murders become homicid=
es (there is a difference- look it up). Police do not want you to give them=
a hard time by making them investigate a crime. But they are willing to ha=
rass you and make up their ticket and arrest quotas for anything from spitt=
ing on the sidewalk to 5 minutes before your metered parking time is up. Th=
ey will add resisting arrest if you dare talk back to them. Frisk/Search/As=
k went up from 90,000 during the Guliani years to over 750,000, and that is=
with the 10% which are reported!=0A=0ACrime in the city has remained the s=
ame since the stagnant days of the 1980s. It has been given a new make up j=
ob and a new face so people would not think the better of these down graded=
figures. Just come to my place for a night and listen to how many shoot ou=
ts are in my area. I count 2 - 3 a night from 10:30PM to 12:30AM, and you c=
an hear the wails of the police sirens arrive to the area 15 minutes after =
the fact And They Dont Stop To The Crime Scene!=0A=0APersonally- when my ni=
ece was killed last year, the ambulance arrived 45 minutes and took her to =
the hospital 15 minutes later, and the cops never showed up until after she=
was declared dead at the hospital!!! They claim that there was nobody ther=
e when they got there! This Is An Hour+ Time Response Time On Their Part, W=
hen They Claim They Respond In 5 Minutes Or Less!! This- with the police pr=
ecient 4 blocks away from the scene! My Precient- the 25th of Northern East=
Manhattan!=0A=0AYou can not tell me that crime is low in the city. Experie=
nce and knowledge tells me otherwise.=0A=0AThe news media only report what =
they receive, reporters no longer are allowed to listen to scanner and ambu=
lance chase stories any more. Unless you have a federal communications lice=
nse (ham radio license), any radio equipment you have can be taken away fro=
m you if they think you are listening in to their frequencies! (here they a=
re if you want them: http://www.n2nov.net/ )They, the news media, get there=
when a citizen reports whats going on to them! Or when they are there cove=
ring another story (like the traffic helicopter finding police activity bel=
ow). Police figures are printed when it is given to them! If this is not a =
form of media control, then I dont know that is.=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________=
_________________=0A=0AOn 10/23/2011 09:18 PM, Michael L Richardson wrote:=
=0A> It never left that.=A0 The mainstream press and NYPD did not, or under=
reported.=0A> =0A=0AI don't believe that.=A0 Anyway=0A=0Athis was just a f=
ew blocks from you=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D77oEbPQs8DQ=0A=0A>=
> ----- End forwarded message -----
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">It never left.
>As a former auxiliary of some 10 years+, I can tell you as a fact, it neve=
r left.
Its been under-reported, crimes downgraded to misdemeanors or le=
ss. Rapes become Sexual Assaults, Assault and Larecenies (Muggings) become =
Theft of property under $100. Even murders become homicides (there is a dif=
ference- look it up). Police do not want you to give them a hard time by ma=
king them investigate a crime. But they are willing to harass you and make =
up their ticket and arrest quotas for anything from spitting on the sidewal=
k to 5 minutes before your metered parking time is up. They will add resist=
ing arrest if you dare talk back to them. Frisk/Search/Ask went up from 90,=
000 during the Guliani years to over 750,000, and that is with the 10% whic=
h are reported!

Crime in the city has remained the same since
the stagnant days of the 1980s. It has been given a new make up job and a =
new face so people would not think the better of these down graded figures.=
Just come to my place for a night and listen to how many shoot outs are in=
my area. I count 2 - 3 a night from 10:30PM to 12:30AM, and you can hear t=
he wails of the police sirens arrive to the area 15 minutes after the fact =
And They Dont Stop To The Crime Scene!

Personally- when my niece was=
killed last year, the ambulance arrived 45 minutes and took her to the hos=
pital 15 minutes later, and the cops never showed up until after she was de=
clared dead at the hospital!!! They claim that there was nobody there when =
they got there! This Is An Hour+ Time Response Time On Their Part, When The=
y Claim They Respond In 5 Minutes Or Less!! This- with the police precient =
4 blocks away from the scene! My Precient- the 25th of Northern East Manhat=
tan!

You can not tell me that crime is low in the city.
Experience and knowledge tells me otherwise.

The news media only re=
port what they receive, reporters no longer are allowed to listen to scanne=
r and ambulance chase stories any more. Unless you have a federal communica=
tions license (ham radio license), any radio equipment you have can be take=
n away from you if they think you are listening in to their frequencies! (h=
ere they are if you want them: http://www.n2nov.net/ )They, the news media,=
get there when a citizen reports whats going on to them! Or when they are =
there covering another story (like the traffic helicopter finding police ac=
tivity below). Police figures are printed when it is given to them! If this=
is not a form of media control, then I dont know that is.

e=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;=
">
size: 12pt;">
style=3D"font-weight:bold;">

=0AOn 10/23/2011 09:18 P=
M, Michael L Richardson wrote:
> It never left that.  The mainst=
ream press and NYPD did not, or under reported.
>

I don't bel=
ieve that.  Anyway

this was just a few blocks from you

h=
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D77oEbPQs8DQ

>> ----- End forwa=
rded message -----




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It never left.=0A=0AAs a former auxiliary of some 10 years+, I can tell you=
as a fact, it never left.=0AIts been under-reported, crimes downgraded to =
misdemeanors or less. Rapes become Sexual Assaults, Assault and Larecenies =
(Muggings) become Theft of property under $100. Even murders become homicid=
es (there is a difference- look it up). Police do not want you to give them=
a hard time by making them investigate a crime. But they are willing to ha=
rass you and make up their ticket and arrest quotas for anything from spitt=
ing on the sidewalk to 5 minutes before your metered parking time is up. Th=
ey will add resisting arrest if you dare talk back to them. Frisk/Search/As=
k went up from 90,000 during the Guliani years to over 750,000, and that is=
with the 10% which are reported!=0A=0ACrime in the city has remained the s=
ame since the stagnant days of the 1980s. It has been given a new make up j=
ob and a new face so people would not think the better of these down graded=
figures. Just come to my place for a night and listen to how many shoot ou=
ts are in my area. I count 2 - 3 a night from 10:30PM to 12:30AM, and you c=
an hear the wails of the police sirens arrive to the area 15 minutes after =
the fact And They Dont Stop To The Crime Scene!=0A=0APersonally- when my ni=
ece was killed last year, the ambulance arrived 45 minutes and took her to =
the hospital 15 minutes later, and the cops never showed up until after she=
was declared dead at the hospital!!! They claim that there was nobody ther=
e when they got there! This Is An Hour+ Time Response Time On Their Part, W=
hen They Claim They Respond In 5 Minutes Or Less!! This- with the police pr=
ecient 4 blocks away from the scene! My Precient- the 25th of Northern East=
Manhattan!=0A=0AYou can not tell me that crime is low in the city. Experie=
nce and knowledge tells me otherwise.=0A=0AThe news media only report what =
they receive, reporters no longer are allowed to listen to scanner and ambu=
lance chase stories any more. Unless you have a federal communications lice=
nse (ham radio license), any radio equipment you have can be taken away fro=
m you if they think you are listening in to their frequencies! (here they a=
re if you want them: http://www.n2nov.net/ )They, the news media, get there=
when a citizen reports whats going on to them! Or when they are there cove=
ring another story (like the traffic helicopter finding police activity bel=
ow). Police figures are printed when it is given to them! If this is not a =
form of media control, then I dont know that is.=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________=
_________________=0A=0AOn 10/23/2011 09:18 PM, Michael L Richardson wrote:=
=0A> It never left that.=A0 The mainstream press and NYPD did not, or under=
reported.=0A> =0A=0AI don't believe that.=A0 Anyway=0A=0Athis was just a f=
ew blocks from you=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D77oEbPQs8DQ=0A=0A>=
> ----- End forwarded message -----
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">It never left.
>As a former auxiliary of some 10 years+, I can tell you as a fact, it neve=
r left.
Its been under-reported, crimes downgraded to misdemeanors or le=
ss. Rapes become Sexual Assaults, Assault and Larecenies (Muggings) become =
Theft of property under $100. Even murders become homicides (there is a dif=
ference- look it up). Police do not want you to give them a hard time by ma=
king them investigate a crime. But they are willing to harass you and make =
up their ticket and arrest quotas for anything from spitting on the sidewal=
k to 5 minutes before your metered parking time is up. They will add resist=
ing arrest if you dare talk back to them. Frisk/Search/Ask went up from 90,=
000 during the Guliani years to over 750,000, and that is with the 10% whic=
h are reported!

Crime in the city has remained the same since
the stagnant days of the 1980s. It has been given a new make up job and a =
new face so people would not think the better of these down graded figures.=
Just come to my place for a night and listen to how many shoot outs are in=
my area. I count 2 - 3 a night from 10:30PM to 12:30AM, and you can hear t=
he wails of the police sirens arrive to the area 15 minutes after the fact =
And They Dont Stop To The Crime Scene!

Personally- when my niece was=
killed last year, the ambulance arrived 45 minutes and took her to the hos=
pital 15 minutes later, and the cops never showed up until after she was de=
clared dead at the hospital!!! They claim that there was nobody there when =
they got there! This Is An Hour+ Time Response Time On Their Part, When The=
y Claim They Respond In 5 Minutes Or Less!! This- with the police precient =
4 blocks away from the scene! My Precient- the 25th of Northern East Manhat=
tan!

You can not tell me that crime is low in the city.
Experience and knowledge tells me otherwise.

The news media only re=
port what they receive, reporters no longer are allowed to listen to scanne=
r and ambulance chase stories any more. Unless you have a federal communica=
tions license (ham radio license), any radio equipment you have can be take=
n away from you if they think you are listening in to their frequencies! (h=
ere they are if you want them: http://www.n2nov.net/ )They, the news media,=
get there when a citizen reports whats going on to them! Or when they are =
there covering another story (like the traffic helicopter finding police ac=
tivity below). Police figures are printed when it is given to them! If this=
is not a form of media control, then I dont know that is.

e=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;=
">
size: 12pt;">
style=3D"font-weight:bold;">

=0AOn 10/23/2011 09:18 P=
M, Michael L Richardson wrote:
> It never left that.  The mainst=
ream press and NYPD did not, or under reported.
>

I don't bel=
ieve that.  Anyway

this was just a few blocks from you

h=
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D77oEbPQs8DQ

>> ----- End forwa=
rded message -----




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  21. 2011-10-24 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  22. 2011-10-24 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  23. 2011-10-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  24. 2011-10-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  25. 2011-10-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] list-at-nysun.com: New York Grows Numb
  26. 2011-10-24 Ruben Safir <ceo.brooklyn-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  27. 2011-10-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  28. 2011-10-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  29. 2011-10-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  30. 2011-10-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  31. 2011-10-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [info-at-3rdward.com: Last Chance for Open Call + Bright & Shiny New
  32. 2011-10-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org: [isoc-ny] ISOC-NY news Oct 2011]
  33. 2011-10-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  34. 2011-10-28 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  35. 2011-10-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Intelectual Property Wars heating up again
  36. 2011-10-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Intelectual Property Wars heating up again
  37. 2011-10-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Never Ending Battle to FUCK you and make you a criminal
  38. 2011-10-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Never Ending Battle to FUCK you and make
  39. 2011-10-30 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  40. 2011-10-30 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] any linux laptop ideas of late
  41. 2011-10-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] list-at-nysun.com: New York Grows Numb
  42. 2011-10-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] list-at-nysun.com: New York Grows Numb
  43. 2011-10-31 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] list-at-nysun.com: New York Grows Numb
  44. 2011-10-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act
  45. 2011-10-31 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of NYLUG the corporation!
  46. 2011-10-31 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good
  47. 2011-10-31 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good
  48. 2011-10-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  49. 2011-10-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of

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