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DATE 2013-01-30
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From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 50th
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=0A=0A< grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=0A=
=0AMy understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing Apple=
products and other gadgetry.=A0 It concerns me because one of the things I=
liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.=A0 But I=
keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the inevitable=
result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads are really p=
ricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers.=A0 In that case the rise =
in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring the truths alre=
ady learned the hard way.=A0 Has there ever been a time everyone could have=
walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and crime would not ha=
ve risen?>>=0A=0A=0ANo.=A0 There is an insidious uptick in crime and genera=
l filthiness.=A0 The city is in a huge slide and its social fabric is comin=
g unglued again.=A0 Whether it is just kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal =
dumping. muggings and threatening behavior by kids on trains and streets, i=
t is seriously sliding back, and more quickly than global warming.=0A=0A=0A=
> And I need to move on to my second phase of life to life in a place=0A> w=
here I feel that I can matter more under less stress. I'd have been=0A> gon=
e already if not for the legal issues I'm still stuck in.=0A=0A<anding about your wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same probl=
ems everyone else has.=A0 Since I don't want to get into the weeds right no=
w, I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the fut=
ure is "new".=A0 You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and =
frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and do=
esn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>=0A=0A=0A=
Ron, your not getting IT.=A0 We do not live forever.=A0 I have what, maybe =
15 years in my life left?=A0 Am I supposed to remake what again?=0A=0A=0A> =
I'd also like to get remarried.=0A=0A<ted thoughts, or do you feel that you won't be getting remarried if you sta=
y in Brooklyn?=A0 Certainly there's got to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn=
.>>=0A=0A=0AMaybe, but I would rather not be here.=0A=0ARuben=0A
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pt;"><<I started working in Manhattan in '87 when I was still a kid, =
but I grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=


My understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing =
Apple products and other gadgetry.  It concerns me because one of the =
things I liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.&=
nbsp; But I keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the=
inevitable result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads a=
re really pricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers.  In that =
case the rise in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring
the truths already learned the hard way.  Has there ever been a time =
everyone could have walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and=
crime would not have risen?>>


No.  There is an insid=
ious uptick in crime and general filthiness.  The city is in a huge sl=
ide and its social fabric is coming unglued again.  Whether it is just=
kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal dumping. muggings and threatening beha=
vior by kids on trains and streets, it is seriously sliding back, and more =
quickly than global warming.


> And I need to move on to my se=
cond phase of life to life in a place
> where I feel that I can matte=
r more under less stress. I'd have been
> gone already if not for the=
legal issues I'm still stuck in.

<<My understanding about you=
r wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same problems everyone els=
e has.  Since I don't want to get into the weeds right now,
I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the futur=
e is "new".  You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and=
frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and d=
oesn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>r>

Ron, your not getting IT.  We do not live forever.  I h=
ave what, maybe 15 years in my life left?  Am I supposed to remake wha=
t again?


> I'd also like to get remarried.

<<I'm=
not sure if those are two unrelated thoughts, or do you feel that you won'=
t be getting remarried if you stay in Brooklyn?  Certainly there's got=
to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn.>>


Maybe, but I would=
rather not be here.

Ruben

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=0A=0A< grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=0A=
=0AMy understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing Apple=
products and other gadgetry.=A0 It concerns me because one of the things I=
liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.=A0 But I=
keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the inevitable=
result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads are really p=
ricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers.=A0 In that case the rise =
in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring the truths alre=
ady learned the hard way.=A0 Has there ever been a time everyone could have=
walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and crime would not ha=
ve risen?>>=0A=0A=0ANo.=A0 There is an insidious uptick in crime and genera=
l filthiness.=A0 The city is in a huge slide and its social fabric is comin=
g unglued again.=A0 Whether it is just kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal =
dumping. muggings and threatening behavior by kids on trains and streets, i=
t is seriously sliding back, and more quickly than global warming.=0A=0A=0A=
> And I need to move on to my second phase of life to life in a place=0A> w=
here I feel that I can matter more under less stress. I'd have been=0A> gon=
e already if not for the legal issues I'm still stuck in.=0A=0A<anding about your wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same probl=
ems everyone else has.=A0 Since I don't want to get into the weeds right no=
w, I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the fut=
ure is "new".=A0 You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and =
frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and do=
esn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>=0A=0A=0A=
Ron, your not getting IT.=A0 We do not live forever.=A0 I have what, maybe =
15 years in my life left?=A0 Am I supposed to remake what again?=0A=0A=0A> =
I'd also like to get remarried.=0A=0A<ted thoughts, or do you feel that you won't be getting remarried if you sta=
y in Brooklyn?=A0 Certainly there's got to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn=
.>>=0A=0A=0AMaybe, but I would rather not be here.=0A=0ARuben=0A
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tyle=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12=
pt;"><<I started working in Manhattan in '87 when I was still a kid, =
but I grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=


My understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing =
Apple products and other gadgetry.  It concerns me because one of the =
things I liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.&=
nbsp; But I keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the=
inevitable result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads a=
re really pricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers.  In that =
case the rise in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring
the truths already learned the hard way.  Has there ever been a time =
everyone could have walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and=
crime would not have risen?>>


No.  There is an insid=
ious uptick in crime and general filthiness.  The city is in a huge sl=
ide and its social fabric is coming unglued again.  Whether it is just=
kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal dumping. muggings and threatening beha=
vior by kids on trains and streets, it is seriously sliding back, and more =
quickly than global warming.


> And I need to move on to my se=
cond phase of life to life in a place
> where I feel that I can matte=
r more under less stress. I'd have been
> gone already if not for the=
legal issues I'm still stuck in.

<<My understanding about you=
r wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same problems everyone els=
e has.  Since I don't want to get into the weeds right now,
I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the futur=
e is "new".  You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and=
frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and d=
oesn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>r>

Ron, your not getting IT.  We do not live forever.  I h=
ave what, maybe 15 years in my life left?  Am I supposed to remake wha=
t again?


> I'd also like to get remarried.

<<I'm=
not sure if those are two unrelated thoughts, or do you feel that you won'=
t be getting remarried if you stay in Brooklyn?  Certainly there's got=
to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn.>>


Maybe, but I would=
rather not be here.

Ruben

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  18. 2013-01-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [notification+zr [NYLXS] How about a Python project?
  19. 2013-01-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [notification+zrdph1rleehz-at-facebookmail.com: Re: [NYLXS] How about
  20. 2013-01-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn101-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] lectures
  21. 2013-01-25 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] lectures
  22. 2013-01-25 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] lectures
  23. 2013-01-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] lectures
  24. 2013-01-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Thunderbird easy of use
  25. 2013-01-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] it takes a stupid human
  26. 2013-01-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [update+zrdph1rleehz-at-facebookmail.com: Emily Shapiro also
  27. 2013-01-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [escott1976-at-aol.com: Re: [New-York-C-Developers-Group] C++ Meetup
  28. 2013-01-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] showfoto lens filters
  29. 2013-01-28 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] showfoto lens filters
  30. 2013-01-28 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] showfoto lens filters
  31. 2013-01-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] lectures
  32. 2013-01-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tonights meeting
  33. 2013-01-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 50th
  34. 2013-01-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lectures
  35. 2013-01-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn101-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 50th
  36. 2013-01-30 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 50th
  37. 2013-01-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 50th
  38. 2013-01-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 50th
  39. 2013-01-31 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lectures
  40. 2013-01-31 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lecture Series
  41. 2013-01-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Jobs
  42. 2013-01-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Lecture Series

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