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DATE 2013-07-01

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MESSAGE
DATE 2013-07-31
FROM Paul Robert Marino
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Big Brother is Watching You
well police monitoring public posts made by a multiple time convicted
felon isn't really something I have a problem with, but its definitely
an over reaction on the NYPD's part bordering on harassment.

Sorry nothing any one posts on the internet is private period. This is
something I drilled in to my kids when I worked for the NYC School
system. Posting on the internet is legally the same thing as
publishing there for should have the same protections as any other
form of free speech but privacy is not one of those guaranties. if you
want privacy encrypt your data and send it directly to the parties
involved, because thats the only way you can reasonably and or legally
expect privacy for your internet communications.

By the way I also made my students sign contracts stating that any
thing they used the school computers for was monitored and could be
used by the school in any way. Occasionally I post some of their AOL
instant messenger conversations on bulletin boards in the hall way to
prove the point. When ever they would complain about it I would show
them the contract they signed. they would usually argue that that
didn't give me the right to monitor their AIM conversations and I
would point out they were using the schools computer and the schools
internet connection so that gave the school the right to set what ever
policies they want about the privacy of the data passing through it as
long as it didn't violate any NYC or NY state laws, and the same is
true for AOL and their AIM servers; however you may not know it when
AOL shares you data.





On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
>
> It doesn't bother as much that people are arrested in this fashion as
> much as that there is a debate that such action by the police is wrong.
>
> http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2013/jul/22/nypd-arrests-queens-man-facebook-posts-after-zimmerman-verdict/
>
> Where did we go wrong that people accdept the idea that the public
> should be under 24/7 survalence?
>
> Ruben

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