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MESSAGE
DATE 2014-11-09
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] httpd won't go away
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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 08:34:23 -0500
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Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] httpd won't go away
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On debian/fedora the service is named httpd as i recall. Suse always
named it apache2. You have to learn to read systemd:

# systemctl status httpd
httpd.service
Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
Active: inactive (dead)

means "this service is unknown".

# systemctl status apache2
apache2.service - The Apache Webserver
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sun 2014-11-09 09:53:44 CET; 1h 24min ago
Main PID: 2671 (httpd2-prefork)
Status: "Total requests: 0; Current requests/sec: 0; Current traffic:
0 B/sec"
CGroup: /system.slice/apache2.service
??2671 /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
-DSSL -D SYSTEMD -DFOREGROUND -k start
??2944 /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
-DSSL -D SYSTEMD -DFOREGROUND -k start
??2946 /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
-DSSL -D SYSTEMD -DFOREGROUND -k start
??2948 /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
-DSSL -D SYSTEMD -DFOREGROUND -k start
??2949 /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
-DSSL -D SYSTEMD -DFOREGROUND -k start
??2950 /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
-DSSL -D SYSTEMD -DFOREGROUND -k start

means: "this service is running well".
You can see the restart feature (this is not a bug!) in Opensuse 13.2 is
not switched on by default:

# systemctl show -p Restart apache2
Restart=no

So you should be able to kill apache the old school way. I managed to do it.

If you don't know if it is apache or any other service blocking your
socket, try to use:

netstat -tulpen

as root.

On 11/09/2014 01:39 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> I was trying to debug an apache application and I NEED to see the output
> from odperl to stderr which goes straight to the error logs.
>
> I couldn't find the output anyway
>
> So I'm trying to stop and start apache and when I do, apache won't start
> because
>
> A) It says the socket is taken in systemd jaargon
> B) The logs are dlete...
>
> I deleted the damn logs on purpose but it was right, there was a mystory
> httpd process running after I killed the process.
>
> So I tried to killall hhttpd
> that just caused a regeneration
>
> systemctl stop httpd.service
>
> NOTHING - not even feedback
>
> Pull the F***ing plug
>
> Yeah that still works.
>
> I'm sure there is some ration reason and calming answer to why when I'm
> killing apache that systemd restarts it without my permision.
>
> and there has to be some other calming nice reason why even through
> systemctl, that it doesn't give any feedback or nor kill the httpd
> server.
>
> for me, I'm moving to Jupiter 1. It is safer there.
>
> Ruben
>
>




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