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DATE 2008-05-16
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Motherboard Wars

05.15.08 Microsoft’s Quiet War Against GNU/Linux on Motherboards

Posted in Microsoft, GNU/Linux, Hardware, Antitrust, Open XML at 9:52
pm by Roy Schestowitz

Predatory EULA on chip

One exciting recent bit of news is all about Asustek extending the reach
of Splashtop and putting it on pretty much every motherboard. This means
that tens of millions of PCs are expected to have Linux installed down
at the core, essentially (yet arguably) running it as the ‘default’
operating system.

As rudimentary as Splashtop may be at the moment, this could be the
start of something greater that will be extended and improved over
time. Splashtop also had its kernel patches released to the public
(according to Phoronix), so other hardware makers are likely to follow
suit. Phoenix has already found itself on a similar boat and Phoenix’
ubiquity is nothing to sneeze at.

In yesterday’s news, The Inquirer made the following important
observation:

Asus to ship all motherboards with Linux

[…]

And, for many casual computer users who make use of web-based
applications exclusively, Splashtop Linux might be all the operating
system they ever need.

This becomes truer as time goes by. An increasing number of applications
become Web-based. Not everyone would use them, but some might. Some will.

Splashtop receives a lot of publicity at the moment, but it’s arguably
small potatoes compared to Phoenix HyperSpace, which was described here:

Phoenix Technologies’ new HyperSpace is an instant-on environment
for laptops, letting users launch a browser or other apps with
booting into the OS.

Today, Phoenix Technologies introduced a firmware product called
HyperSpace, which allows PCs to run a number of applications separate
from the operating system. What that means is that if you use a PC
equipped with HyperSpace, you will be able to quick-boot your notebook
into a secure Linux environment, where you can use Web browsers like
FireFox and pre-loaded Web-aware apps like Google Earth, Picasa,
and the like.

[…]

Also, since HyperSpace is a Linux-based platform, Windows viruses
won’t affect it.

As Beta News put it at the time, “New Phoenix BIOS will run Linux apps
when Windows fails.”

The basic concept is that an embedded Linux OS will accompany the
core system firmware or BIOS, allowing instant-on applications to
be run from it at any time.

Even Dell expressed some optimism and showed its enthusiasm about
such disruptive technologies at the time, but let’s quickly look at
Microsoft’s apparent reaction.

BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies Ltd.’s plans to market a new
application platform the company claims will solve a number of
problems endemic to Microsoft’s Windows platform might be taken
as a provocative gesture at their longtime partner. But Redmond’s
immediate reaction was nonchalant.

On Monday, the Milpitas, Calif. software maker announced Hyperspace,
a Linux-based virtualization platform that will let OEMs bundle
cut-down versions of popular open-source software that end users
will be able to access instantly, even without booting Windows.

Based on such report you would think that Microsoft does not care,
wouldn’t you? However, this new article brings back memories:

Splashtop is not the only such product on the market. A year ago,
BIOS vendor Phoenix Technology launched HyperSpace, an equivalent
that has yet to turn up on PCs in any numbers. Microsoft’s view
on the movement to embed cut-down operating systems is not known,
but Phoenix did launch a pre-emptive strike against it to stop
it blocking HyperSpace using restrictive Vista end-user license
agreements (EULAs). Microsoft relented.

An antitrust complaint from Phoenix Technology, an eternal Microsoft
partner (or so it thought) forced the monopoly to fix the anti-competitive
EULA of Windows Vista. Microsoft tried to characterise this change as
goodwill and a nice gesture, essentially changing the story which was
originally told and claiming credit (even glory) for being abusive. The
press underplayed this fiasco, but Mary Jo Foley was rather disgusted.

But the real reason for Microsoft’s capitulation became clear on
March 7 via a new joint-status report in the Microsoft-Department
of Justice case. It turns out BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies
(a long-time Microsoft partner) filed a complaint with antitrust
regulators about Microsoft’s virtualization restrictions.

Microsoft has tried to manipulate the virtualisation market in a variety
of ways [1, 2, 3] because it had fallen so far behind. Microsoft insulted
many people’s intelligence when it claimed that a EULA could or could
not define the level of security of the O/S, limited by editions of
Windows, i.e. featureset being b/locked.

This wasn’t the first time that Microsoft lied or twisted excuses about
’security’ in order to be anti-competitive. Recall the OOXML/file
types incident for example.

Speaking of which, OOXML is still a secret as Microsoft continues to
disobey rules. Charles complaint about this only a couple of days ago
and now he’s now joined by Bob Sutor, not just Rob Weir, among others.

Will it [OOXML] ever be available? Does anyone care? Do any rules
apply to this at all? What are the excuses for this? Just like almost
ever other aspect of this particular process, dangerous exceptions
and precedents are being set.

To sum up, here we have another case study exemplifying total disregard,
market abuse, distortion of stories and a strategic fight against Linux,
which escapes the media’s attention. █

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  84. 2008-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] EEE PC Group Meeting
  85. 2008-05-21 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] EEE PC Group Meeting
  86. 2008-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 - Service Pack 1 and 2 parallel maintenance]
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  90. 2008-05-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] speaking of meetings, here's interest from outside
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  92. 2008-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [legcalendar-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Council Calendar - Week of 05.26.08]
  93. 2008-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  94. 2008-05-24 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  95. 2008-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  96. 2008-05-24 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  97. 2008-05-24 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  98. 2008-05-24 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  99. 2008-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  100. 2008-05-25 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  101. 2008-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest - Memorial Weekend
  102. 2008-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Jennifer 8 is on NPR
  103. 2008-05-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Vital Books DRM infested crap wants you to share
  104. 2008-05-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nyc-at-workatjelly.com: Jelly in Williamsburg Friday, 5/30]
  105. 2008-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [legcalendar-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Council Calendar - Week of 06.02.08]

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