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DATE 2009-05-31
FROM Ronny Abraham
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] postfix mailman and bulk email
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Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:09:04 +0300
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Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] postfix mailman and bulk email
From: Ronny Abraham
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Mailman it is!

Can anyone recommend a good doc on it? I can always look at the docs on

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html

But if anyone can recommend something better, I'd be grateful.

-ron

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Matthew wrote:

> I just migrated some mailing lists to mailman. It really is done decently.
> Once it is setup, you manage it with a webpage and it will change the
> aliases and work fine.
> Adding/removing people unfortunately seems like it has to be done with
> their software
> as the list is held in a db format.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> Ron Guerin wrote:
>
>> Ronny Abraham wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I was thinking that worst comes to worst, I'd do it from scratch using
>>> forms, html, and python (with a host that has mysql and sendmail).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> One of the biggest mistakes people make on the Internet is thinking that
>> writing a MLM (Mailing List Manager) is trivial. Doing it right is
>> non-trivial. Better to use one written by people who know the rules of
>> the road than either ignoring the rules of the road or trying to learn
>> them all. The latter is how mail servers and domains get blacklisted.
>>
>> - Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Mailman it is!

Can anyone recommend a good doc on i=
t?=A0 I can always look at the docs on

g/software/mailman/index.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.ht=
ml



But if anyone can recommend something better, I'd be grateful.
<=
br>-ron

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:55 PM, =
Matthew <mph-at-dorsai.=
org
>
wrote:

204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I just migrated s=
ome mailing lists to mailman. =A0It really is done decently.

Once it is setup, you manage it with a webpage and it will change the alias=
es and work fine.

Adding/removing people unfortunately seems like it has to be done with thei=
r software

as the list is held in a db format.



Matthew




Ron Guerin wrote:

204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Ronny Abraham wrote:

=A0

204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I was thinking that worst comes to worst, I'd do it from scratch using<=
br>
forms, html, and python (with a host that has mysql and sendmail).

=A0 =A0




One of the biggest mistakes people make on the Internet is thinking that>
writing a MLM (Mailing List Manager) is trivial. =A0Doing it right is

non-trivial. =A0Better to use one written by people who know the rules ofr>
the road than either ignoring the rules of the road or trying to learn

them all. =A0The latter is how mail servers and domains get blacklisted.>


- Ron





=A0







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--00032557541e7c12d7046b3934e2
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Mailman it is!

Can anyone recommend a good doc on it? I can always look at the docs on

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html

But if anyone can recommend something better, I'd be grateful.

-ron

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Matthew wrote:

> I just migrated some mailing lists to mailman. It really is done decently.
> Once it is setup, you manage it with a webpage and it will change the
> aliases and work fine.
> Adding/removing people unfortunately seems like it has to be done with
> their software
> as the list is held in a db format.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> Ron Guerin wrote:
>
>> Ronny Abraham wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I was thinking that worst comes to worst, I'd do it from scratch using
>>> forms, html, and python (with a host that has mysql and sendmail).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> One of the biggest mistakes people make on the Internet is thinking that
>> writing a MLM (Mailing List Manager) is trivial. Doing it right is
>> non-trivial. Better to use one written by people who know the rules of
>> the road than either ignoring the rules of the road or trying to learn
>> them all. The latter is how mail servers and domains get blacklisted.
>>
>> - Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

--00032557541e7c12d7046b3934e2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mailman it is!

Can anyone recommend a good doc on i=
t?=A0 I can always look at the docs on

g/software/mailman/index.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.ht=
ml



But if anyone can recommend something better, I'd be grateful.
<=
br>-ron

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:55 PM, =
Matthew <mph-at-dorsai.=
org
>
wrote:

204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I just migrated s=
ome mailing lists to mailman. =A0It really is done decently.

Once it is setup, you manage it with a webpage and it will change the alias=
es and work fine.

Adding/removing people unfortunately seems like it has to be done with thei=
r software

as the list is held in a db format.



Matthew




Ron Guerin wrote:

204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Ronny Abraham wrote:

=A0

204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I was thinking that worst comes to worst, I'd do it from scratch using<=
br>
forms, html, and python (with a host that has mysql and sendmail).

=A0 =A0




One of the biggest mistakes people make on the Internet is thinking that>
writing a MLM (Mailing List Manager) is trivial. =A0Doing it right is

non-trivial. =A0Better to use one written by people who know the rules ofr>
the road than either ignoring the rules of the road or trying to learn

them all. =A0The latter is how mail servers and domains get blacklisted.>


- Ron





=A0







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