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DATE 2011-03-27
FROM From: "Ron Guerin"
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
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Ruben Safir wrote:
> I know folks 'round these parts don't believe in pre-installed systems
> but HP is making some serious noise about the GNU/Linux based WebOS
> being preinstalled on EVERY HP system in the future, and I think that is
> worthy of some notice.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HP-WebOS-Palm-OS-WebOS-PC-Tablets-Smartphones,12352.html
>

I doubt there's a shred of GNU in there. Do you know otherwise? It's
always a good thing to see Linux getting around, if nothing else it's
one less copy of iOS or Windows on something, but I believe WebOS is a
good deal more proprietary than Android is. Nokia Maemo devices these
things are not. Alas poor Nokia.... It's starting to look like Linux
will be the #1 phone and tablet operating system, but only locked down
variants stripped of anything that might let you use your device in ways
other than the company that sold it to you wants you to use it.

It's pretty shitty what's been going on with Android devices. The
carriers like "open" when it applies to _them_, but when it applies to
_you_, openness is something to be battled with every available
technical and legal resource.

Also... who do you think WebOS is a threat to? I hear it spoken of
rather favorably by some industry pundits, but who do you think it
threatens? Windows? iOS? Android? Blackberry/QNX? All of them?

- Ron

  1. 2011-03-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday March 1 6:00PM-8:00PM
  2. 2011-03-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  3. 2011-03-01 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  4. 2011-03-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  5. 2011-03-02 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  6. 2011-03-02 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  7. 2011-03-02 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Justice eyes Microsoft-Novell patent deal
  8. 2011-03-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  9. 2011-03-03 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  10. 2011-03-03 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  11. 2011-03-07 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  12. 2011-03-08 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  13. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  14. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  15. 2011-03-08 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  16. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Healthcare initiative
  17. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  18. 2011-03-08 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  19. 2011-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP Touch Pad
  20. 2011-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting for Classes Planning and Workshop
  21. 2011-03-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday March 15 6:00PM-8:00PM
  22. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [billy.donahue-at-gmail.com: Namespaces and the Interface Principle]
  23. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: Namespaces and the Interface Principle]
  24. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  25. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [billy.donahue-at-gmail.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  26. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  27. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hack] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society,
  28. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hack] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society,
  29. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  30. 2011-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Work
  31. 2011-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nytdirect-at-nytimes.com: An important notice for NYTimes.com
  32. 2011-03-17 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nytdirect-at-nytimes.com: An important notice for
  33. 2011-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Quotes
  34. 2011-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [hery.ramilison-at-oracle.com: MySQL Community Server 5.5.10 has been
  35. 2011-03-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table TOMORROW, Saturday March 19 10-11 PM (streaming live)
  36. 2011-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Nulls and Zeros in C++]
  37. 2011-03-21 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [Debian-NYC] Linux Installation Festival * April 2 12pm - 5pm]
  38. 2011-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Book Burning continues thanks to the Feds]
  39. 2011-03-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Presents: 4/20 -at- 6:30PM Erik Kastner and John Goulah on Deployinator: How Etsy removed the pain and fear from deploying code
  40. 2011-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  41. 2011-03-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  42. 2011-03-27 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  43. 2011-03-27 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  44. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  45. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  46. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jcharb-at-clear.net: Re: GNU/Linux_1: Introduction to GNU/Linux]
  47. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  48. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  49. 2011-03-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday March 29 6:00PM-8:00PM
  50. 2011-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement:
  51. 2011-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [evan-at-snarc.net: Vintage Computer Festival East 7.0 - May 14-15]

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