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DATE 2011-03-28
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Mar 28 12:37:56 2011
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Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
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On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:56:38PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> > I know folks 'round these parts don't believe in pre-installed systems
> > but HP is making some serious noise about the GNU/Linux based WebOS
> > being preinstalled on EVERY HP system in the future, and I think that is
> > worthy of some notice.
> >
> > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HP-WebOS-Palm-OS-WebOS-PC-Tablets-Smartphones,12352.html
> >
>
> I doubt there's a shred of GNU in there. Do you know otherwise? It's
> always a good thing to see Linux getting around, if nothing else it's
> one less copy of iOS or Windows on something, but I believe WebOS is a
> good deal more proprietary than Android is. Nokia Maemo devices these
> things are not. Alas poor Nokia.... It's starting to look like Linux
> will be the #1 phone and tablet operating system, but only locked down
> variants stripped of anything that might let you use your device in ways
> other than the company that sold it to you wants you to use it.
>
> It's pretty shitty what's been going on with Android devices. The
> carriers like "open" when it applies to _them_, but when it applies to
> _you_, openness is something to be battled with every available
> technical and legal resource.
>
> Also... who do you think WebOS is a threat to? I hear it spoken of
> rather favorably by some industry pundits, but who do you think it
> threatens? Windows? iOS? Android? Blackberry/QNX? All of them?
>
> - Ron


I don't know that about WebOS. Did you see the interoperability of the
various devices that HP is proposing. It will be a new standard and
much what I'd expected to see even a few years ago, but never developed.

Ruben

  1. 2011-03-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday March 1 6:00PM-8:00PM
  2. 2011-03-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  3. 2011-03-01 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  4. 2011-03-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  5. 2011-03-02 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  6. 2011-03-02 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  7. 2011-03-02 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Justice eyes Microsoft-Novell patent deal
  8. 2011-03-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  9. 2011-03-03 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  10. 2011-03-03 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Meeting
  11. 2011-03-07 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  12. 2011-03-08 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  13. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  14. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  15. 2011-03-08 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  16. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Healthcare initiative
  17. 2011-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  18. 2011-03-08 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS ANNOUNCMENT - Please Pass it on
  19. 2011-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP Touch Pad
  20. 2011-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting for Classes Planning and Workshop
  21. 2011-03-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday March 15 6:00PM-8:00PM
  22. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [billy.donahue-at-gmail.com: Namespaces and the Interface Principle]
  23. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: Namespaces and the Interface Principle]
  24. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  25. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [billy.donahue-at-gmail.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  26. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  27. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hack] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society,
  28. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hack] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society,
  29. 2011-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: this compared to NULL]
  30. 2011-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Work
  31. 2011-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nytdirect-at-nytimes.com: An important notice for NYTimes.com
  32. 2011-03-17 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nytdirect-at-nytimes.com: An important notice for
  33. 2011-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Quotes
  34. 2011-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [hery.ramilison-at-oracle.com: MySQL Community Server 5.5.10 has been
  35. 2011-03-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table TOMORROW, Saturday March 19 10-11 PM (streaming live)
  36. 2011-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Nulls and Zeros in C++]
  37. 2011-03-21 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [Debian-NYC] Linux Installation Festival * April 2 12pm - 5pm]
  38. 2011-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Book Burning continues thanks to the Feds]
  39. 2011-03-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Presents: 4/20 -at- 6:30PM Erik Kastner and John Goulah on Deployinator: How Etsy removed the pain and fear from deploying code
  40. 2011-03-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  41. 2011-03-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  42. 2011-03-27 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  43. 2011-03-27 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  44. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  45. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  46. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jcharb-at-clear.net: Re: GNU/Linux_1: Introduction to GNU/Linux]
  47. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  48. 2011-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HP WebOS threats
  49. 2011-03-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday March 29 6:00PM-8:00PM
  50. 2011-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement:
  51. 2011-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [evan-at-snarc.net: Vintage Computer Festival East 7.0 - May 14-15]

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