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DATE 2011-07-17
FROM Elfen Magix
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Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:06:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elfen Magix
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYC DoE
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easiest:
https://www.nycteachingfellows.org/Default.asp

They will help you to get in and get a NYS teaching license, put you in a s=
chool to start yo on your way.

Problem: the NYS teaching license, though will have your name, will not be =
yours but property of the NYC DOE. Also, you get to teach without a license=
for=A0 2 years while they prepare you for the teaching license test. That =
means getting a lower rate of pay, I believe $20 - $22/hr compared to $24 -=
$28/hour. Plus during this time you cant join the union because you are no=
t a full fledge teacher.

To help you get in, if you know a school principal, you can get them to wri=
te you a letter of need, which will speed up your school selection.

If something were to happen to you (like you needing to defend yourself aga=
ints a stupid kid or its parents), since the city has your state teaching l=
icense, they can and will revoke it.

Hardest: go back to college and take a couple of Education classes, take th=
e state exam and apply for the license yourself. Then you have to search th=
e DOE system for jobs. If you can get a principal's letter of need, that wo=
uld be best for you.=20

In having your own license, the city can not revoke it, though you can be f=
ired. Furthermore, if you are fired, you can return after 3 years. During t=
his time, you can take the license anywhere in the state or even out of sta=
te as it will be honored. NJ has a NY-NJ license transfer program where NY =
teachers can go to NJ and work there at a higher rate of pay (NYC has the l=
owest rate of pay for its municipal workers- including teachers).

Hope that helps.

A trick with the teaching fellows is to let them get you license which the =
city will own, and then reapply for the test a year later for your own lice=
nse. Once you have your own license, you can do what ever you want because =
you are freed of their restrictions.

Q: You have a Masters in the subject?
A Masters in the subject will boost your pay substantially. A Masters in Ed=
ucation will take you to $75K/year, and a double masters (Ed and your subje=
ct) will push you above $120K/year.


--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Ruben Safir wrote:

From: Ruben Safir
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYC DoE
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 5:50 PM

Fernando

How does one become a teach in the school system if they have a science
degree?

Ruben

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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">easiest:
https://www.nycteachingfellows.or=
g/Default.asp

They will help you to get in and get a NYS teaching li=
cense, put you in a school to start yo on your way.

Problem: the NYS=
teaching license, though will have your name, will not be yours but proper=
ty of the NYC DOE. Also, you get to teach without a license for  2 yea=
rs while they prepare you for the teaching license test. That means getting=
a lower rate of pay, I believe $20 - $22/hr compared to $24 - $28/hour. Pl=
us during this time you cant join the union because you are not a full fled=
ge teacher.

To help you get in, if you know a school principal, you =
can get them to write you a letter of need, which will speed up your school=
selection.

If something were to happen to you (like you needing to =
defend yourself againts a stupid kid or its parents), since the city has yo=
ur
state teaching license, they can and will revoke it.

Hardest: go ba=
ck to college and take a couple of Education classes, take the state exam a=
nd apply for the license yourself. Then you have to search the DOE system f=
or jobs. If you can get a principal's letter of need, that would be best fo=
r you.

In having your own license, the city can not revoke it, thou=
gh you can be fired. Furthermore, if you are fired, you can return after 3 =
years. During this time, you can take the license anywhere in the state or =
even out of state as it will be honored. NJ has a NY-NJ license transfer pr=
ogram where NY teachers can go to NJ and work there at a higher rate of pay=
(NYC has the lowest rate of pay for its municipal workers- including teach=
ers).

Hope that helps.

A trick with the teaching fellows is t=
o let them get you license which the city will own, and then reapply for th=
e test a year later for your own license. Once you have your own
license, you can do what ever you want because you are freed of their rest=
rictions.

Q: You have a Masters in the subject?
A Masters in the =
subject will boost your pay substantially. A Masters in Education will take=
you to $75K/year, and a double masters (Ed and your subject) will push you=
above $120K/year.


--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Ruben Safir <mr=
brklyn-at-panix.com>
wrote:
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From: R=
uben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYC DoE=

To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 5:50 PM
>
Fernando

How does one become a teach in th=
e school system if they have a science
degree?

Ruben
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