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On 11/08/2014 05:47 PM, Majordomo-at-mrbrklyn.com wrote:
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> 1 - NYLXS is to support Leadership Development in the Open Source
> community. Leadership development includes technical development,
> personal development, and political development. In a world, NYLXS needs
> to develop a steady stream of excellent Free Software citizens.
> 2 - Training - NYLXS is to develop training programs for both membership
> and the public. Some space has already been made available in this
> regard. More should be developed. There are two aspects to training. One
> is that we want to have traditional training for membership, such as one
> might obtain in a classroom setting. And we would like to extend such
> training to the virtual classroom, and with one line workshops.
> But secondly, we should develop training with which we can leverage for
> fundraising and for support of the Linux/OS users as a whole, in
> business and education. Modeled on typical corporate training, we need
> to develop proficiency in training OTHERS in the use of the Desktop
> enviorment, Star Office, Applixware, evolution, the gimp, etc. Ideally
> we can be the first source for training in businesses and organizations.
> they needs such a support mechanism in order to adopt Linux broadly and
> on the Desktop. Greater adaptation of Linux in business and education is
> a major goal of NYLXS. I'm hoping we can work with with the new desktop
> Linux Users Group in support of this goal.
> 3 - Education - The adoption of Free Software by the educational system,
> the NYC Board of Ed, CUNY, and SUNY, and public libraries,is slower than
> we would like to see. The true disadvantage of using proprietary
> software in education is not easy to see by educators and
> administrators. There are a number of reasons for this. And I will skip
> over them at this point. Others are more informed than myself on this
> issue, and can speak clearer on the topic. However, we can do several
> things for schools to help enhance the adoption rates. These include
> tech support, petitioning, and networking. Current efforts to get free
> software into schools have been admirable. I would like us to organize
> this a little more by having an online tech support ticketing system.
> This would allow educators to request technical support, and log in an
> open way our commitment to resolving technical issues in our educational
> And a large write up of the benefits of free software in schools is also
> planned for the the nylxs site, a case report, as you will. And we will
> develop some marketing material as well. :) We can also have a team of
> tech support people for schools, and liaisons between NYLXS and the
> educational system.
> 4 - Installfeasts.. Oh what fun these things are. I have come to learn I
> can install any Free Software or Open Source software with sufficient
> Next install feast is in Brooklyn, in two weeks on a Sunday, November
> 11th, 3PM to 10PM, at 1600 East 17th street.
> 5 - Lobbying. Free Software can exist only long as it is legally
> protected. I know this seems strange, but indeed, this IS the case.
> Congress is being constantly lobbied by industry, especially publishers,
> to legally end garage shop computing and hot-rod operating systems. And
> strangely enough, the majority of the pressure to stop the Free-OS is
> not Microsoft, but the MPAA and RIAA.
> Large companies and and entire industries, such as the American
> Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association of America, spend huge amounts
> of money and time lobbying. One of the reasons that Free Software has
> been resistant to business tactics is because, obviously, Linux is not a
> business. BUT, that works both ways, and businesses are adapting to our
> presence by lobbying for bills which either make free software illegal,
> or impractical. They are using legal requirements of physical barriers
> to free software, and using monopoly powers and trust positions to make
> fee software inoperatable with the broad publicly available Internet.
> It is time for the Free Software movement to adapt. While we do not have
> corporate lawyers and high priced lobbyist on the payroll, we are not
> without political power and the ability to lobby. Just as our Software
> development model spring from grass roots associations, so will our
> lobbying efforts. It will take some funding, but it will take even more
> leadership and grass roots movement. We can do this, and we must do this
> if we want to survive as more than a fringe group.
> 6 - Technical Lectures - I hope that once a month members will present
> technical lectures on new developments in computing and software. This
> is not a request to get Alan Cox to come speak about the Kernel
> Development process today. Instead, we want members to present their own
> personal research into a new area of Free Software development, and to
> create a write up, and do a public presentation of the research, with a
> question and answer session to follow.
> I'm always shocked that this is not current standard practice. Computing
> careers are research and education intensive...similar to Medicine. In
> order to remain competent in your field, research and presentation is
> essential. As part of a leadership development function, we hope
> establish a regular peer review program in this regard.
> 7 - Create a NY Linux Scene Journal, both on line and in print
> 8 - Create a regular resource library and lab.
> 9 - Develop a Consultant's Network and a Jobs network
> 10 - Make digital online resources available.
> 11 - Support all NY area Lugs in their goals with man and material.
> 12 - Rent/Purchase/buy a real physical home for computers, books and
> even people.