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DATE 2016-09-26
FROM Jon Tennant
SUBJECT Re: [Learn] Proposed Thesis
From learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Mon Sep 26 09:09:22 2016
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Hey Ruben,

Thanks for getting in touch! So the original article is here:
http://www.nature.com/articles/srep20252

I don't know exactly how they drew this, but there's an R package called
geoscale that does this temporal calibration of cladograms quite nicely. In
terms of building the actual tree, you can use software like TNT and then
read the outputs into R, which is pretty difficult at times but a really
useful skill.

I hope that helps a bit! :)

Jon

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:

> Jon
>
> Good morning. As I was writing on facebook, we have been given a go
> ahead to do a masters thesis on machine learning on fossils to build
> cladiagraphs. I have some rudimentary understanding of the topic, but
> not much in terms of detail or understanding how paleontologist build
> such diagrams mapping proposed evolutionary relationships today.
>
> I've been pointed to the basic text Inferring Phylogenies by Joe
> Felsenstein which I ordered.
>
> I'm interested in the methodology you use, especially with the T-Rex
> article you did here:
>
> http://blogs.plos.org/paleocomm/2016/02/17/the-evolution-of-tyrannosaurs/
>
> I expect to publish all our work at http://www.nylxs.com/thesis/
>
> I'm very interested in openscience and we will likely try to restrict
> our projects to Free Software. I'm particularly interested in mapping
> algorithms being developed and applied to these problems, and
> integrating the increasing use of scanned 3d images for systematic
> analysis, such as what was done for the Trix TRex in Leiden.
>
> Ruben Safir
>
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like TNT and then read the outputs into R, which is pretty difficult at tim=
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such diagrams mapping proposed evolutionary relationships today.



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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological

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