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DATE 2017-03-14
FROM Ramon Nagesan
SUBJECT Re: [Learn] CatScan fossil files
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Hi Ruben,

Sorry about the delay in my response, I had several deadlines to meet at
the end of last week and the beginning of this week.
It was great meeting you last week, and I'm keen to see where your A.I work
takes you. I was chatting with a colleague at the University of Calgary who
said he is aware of other researchers in the states that are trying to
construct neural networks to assess the phylogenetic characteristics of
various early tetrapods. Are you aware of this work?

The file type that is output from a CT scanner is a "diacom", these need to
be converted to either a jpeg or tif in a diacom converter, and then
processed into an image stack in a software called "ImageJ". These image
stacks are then uploaded to "AMIRA" (FEI) for processing into 3D models.
I'm curious to see if you'll be able to streamline this process.

I did a little bit of research and there are several repositories for
paleontological CT data:
http://datadryad.org/
http://digimorph.org/
https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/

I think you'll find those sites very helpful for getting access to CT data
of material that you can play around with. Some of the data is freely
available, some of it you have to request.

Those links looked very cool! One lab you should check out is the Whitmer
lab, they are located at the University of Ohio. They do a great deal of CT
work, and then 3D modelling as a result (see:
https://sketchfab.com/witmerlab).

Again, my apologies for the late reply. Have a great day! Please feel free
to contact me whenever.

Sincerely,
Ramon

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:

> Dr Nagesan
>
> Ramon! I wanted to thank you for the time you gave me on Monday. It was
> very interesting
> and I think your doing the best work. It must be very exciting and I am
> interested in
> following your advancements. Do you have an currently available resources
> on the topics
> and on the Sea Reptiles.
>
> Also, I need, if you don't mind, the name of that file type that the scans
> make and the
> software you use to interpret the images. I think you mentioned digitbind?
> Also, can you
> tell me procedure you use to go from a scan to a tif stack? I'd be very
> interested in
> knowing how you go about that in an effort to perhaps automating it. It
> would be even
> better to go from catscan directly to 3d printing ... or AI
> interpretations.
>
> Ruben Safir
> MS Comp Sci - LIU/Brooklyn
>
> PS - here are a few tibits
> https://ehealthnieuws.blogspot.com/2016/10/staart-
> van-t-rex-trix-krijgt-door.html
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-Y4LUecoU
> https://sketchfab.com/models/8bb05194fb6d4c8a9afa3c61a58d47c7
> http://www.naturalis.nl/media/library/2016/06/Pressfile_T.
> rex_June_2016.pdf
> http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/philips-colors-
> t-rex-trixs-tail-using-its-spectral-ct-technology-300335677.html
> http://www.philips.com/a-w/about/news/archive/standard/
> news/press/2016/20160928-philips-colors-t-rex-trix-s-
> tail-using-its-spectral-ct-technology.html
> http://www.ndt.net/article/wcndt2016/papers/fr2c4.pdf
> http://www.ndt.net/article/wcndt2016/papers/fr2c4.pdf
> https://www.itnonline.com/content/fraunhofer-presents-
> ct-scan-major-t-rex-skull-find
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>



--
*Ramon Nagesan*
*M.Sc. Student, Biological Sciences Department*
*University of Calgary *
*Calgary, Ab. *
*&*
*Fossil Preparation & Education Liaison *
*Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology *
*Drumheller, Ab.*

*2016*

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The file type that is output =
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uploaded to "AMIRA" (FEI) for processing into 3D models. I'm =
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I did a little bit of research and there are several r=
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Ramon! I wanted to thank you for the time you gave me on Monday. It was ver=
y interesting

and I think your doing the best work. It must be very exciting and I am int=
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following your advancements. Do you have an currently available resources o=
n the topics

and on the Sea Reptiles.



Also, I need, if you don't mind, the name of that file type that the sc=
ans make and the

software you use to interpret the images. I think you mentioned digitbind? =
Also, can you

tell me procedure you use to go from a scan to a tif stack? I'd be very=
interested in

knowing how you go about that in an effort to perhaps automating it. It wou=
ld be even

better to go from catscan directly to 3d printing ... or AI interpretations=
.



Ruben Safir

MS Comp Sci - LIU/Brooklyn



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