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| DATE | 2016-01-23 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 05:06:07PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> [Cutting distribution to just Hangout.]
>
> Quoting Dave Thomas (dave-at-pragprog.org):
>
> > For the record, I view our conversation as private, and object to others
> > being added to it.
>
> You know, the man has a bit of a point, Ruben. Your periodically
> deciding to make a public spectacle of a private conversation is
> occasionally a bit over the line, ethically.
there is nothing private about a tech support and sales interaction with a public business.
This is just yet another purposeful confusion on his part. :et us go through all the levels
of deciet involved now:
A) They don't track
They DO
B) They only use Google Analytics for optimization
Optimization is BULLSHIT codeword for Tracking
C) They don't use double click
They know they use it and they KNOW it is part of googles analytics
D) They can't take payments without Javascript....
That should make anyone with even a moment of adult maturity choke on their coffee as they read that
E) You should hack your DNS server to circumvent their unethical behavior.
Fuck that. Sometimes I have reason to use googles services aside. Maybe businesses that do this
should be fined and lose their connection to the internet instead.
F) This is a private conversation.
Fuck that. It is a public conversation with a public business who's conduct is unethical in this
matter and they Dave here can not just hide behind his false claim that this is a private
conversation to cover up his responsibilities to the public.
I will NEVER have a private conversation with Dave. If his utube presentation is any indication
of his personality and background, I have no interest in his personal life whatsoever.
His theories on Agile development, BTW, have a lot to be desired.
G) They use javascript, a proporitary tool.
I know, everone does it and it is istill stupid. Not only is it a piss poor language, but it is a
choke off point on what is now become a lynchpin technolgy on phones and browsers that fails to have
adequate licensing protections. For a company that sells PDFs without DRM, maybe they should know
this.
OK - this is where Richard chimes in that I'm not a nice enough guy ;)
>
> > Now, a positive suggestion. Why not create a proxy DNS that redirects
> > doubleclick.net, google.com, and whatever else to a null server? That way,
> > you could buy not just from our site, but from every other site on the net
> > which uses the practices you object to.
>
> FWIW, my example BIND9 configuration files at
> http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/network/bind9-examples-linuxmafia.tar.gz
> include mapping of a few dozen advertising/tracking domains including
> doubleclick.net to 127.0.0.1. I publish said example fileset pro bono
> publico. You're welcome.
>
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