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DATE 2007-09-15
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
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> >
> >
> > Yeah that's what's bothering me. Some of the results in mailq seem to tell
> > me that spams are being being delayed in the outgoing mail and that these mails
> > are originating from the MAIL-DAMEAN or some such. I believe that they are coming from
> > the info-at-nylxs.com alias, but I'm not certain and the mail logs are not clearifying this.
> >
> > Also, majordomo returns spam messages to the user-at-domain where a request is suposedly
> > generated from, and that might also be the origin.
> >
> > Neither would concern me, but an exploit for relaying would make me really worry.
> >
> Mmmm. Well, actually backscatter can get you in trouble too. It's sort
> of indirect relaying, whereby instead of you "delivering" the spam to
> the victim, you _bounce it to them_.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter#Backscatter_of_email_spam
>

I'm not worried about that. Most of the Majorodomo responses are intentially
using sender adresses which are invalid (hence I find them). Sendly, more than
90% of my mail is now blocked by SORBS accoding to the logs.

I'm worried that the pop2 is exploited or that the local relay allowance is being
exploited. I could never figure out how to limit the pop2 to local domains with
TCP Wrappers.

Ruben


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  1. 2007-09-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Under reported news to say the least...
  2. 2007-09-03 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fw: Non-Profit Boot Camp
  3. 2007-09-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fw: Non-Profit Boot Camp
  4. 2007-09-03 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fw: Non-Profit Boot Camp
  5. 2007-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Balug-Talk] Free Software Events September 7-11th
  6. 2007-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Balug-Talk] Free Software Events September 7-11th
  7. 2007-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Website
  8. 2007-09-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mrjoelkemp-at-gmail.com: Possible NYLXS Lecture or Workshop]
  9. 2007-09-05 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mrjoelkemp-at-gmail.com: Possible NYLXS Lecture or Workshop]
  10. 2007-09-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Balug-Talk] Free Software Events September 7-11th
  11. 2007-09-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Website
  12. 2007-09-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mrjoelkemp-at-gmail.com: Possible NYLXS Lecture or Workshop]
  13. 2007-09-11 From: "Michael Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] You might be interested in this VMware Enterprise Desktop Seminar
  14. 2007-09-11 From: "Michael Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Join VMware for a morning of virtualization with experts and customers
  15. 2007-09-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
  16. 2007-09-14 MYC <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fw: Forrest Gump goes to Heaven]
  17. 2007-09-14 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
  18. 2007-09-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
  19. 2007-09-14 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
  20. 2007-09-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
  21. 2007-09-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
  22. 2007-09-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mail systems
  23. 2007-09-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] telephony job
  24. 2007-09-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Calendar for September 7-11th
  25. 2007-09-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Anyone know what this is?
  26. 2007-09-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] What is this number 2
  27. 2007-09-16 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Microsoft Patents Watermark That May Protect DRM-free Music
  28. 2007-09-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting
  29. 2007-09-16 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting
  30. 2007-09-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting
  31. 2007-09-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  32. 2007-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  33. 2007-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  34. 2007-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meetings: Special Events
  35. 2007-09-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [notifier-at-fbo.gov: FBO posting update]
  36. 2007-09-19 MYC <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Mandriva Linux 2008 Installfest: November 17th, 2007]
  37. 2007-09-19 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meetings: Special Events
  38. 2007-09-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Mandriva Linux 2008 Installfest: November 17th, 2007]
  39. 2007-09-19 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Mandriva Linux 2008 Installfest: November 17th, 2007]
  40. 2007-09-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [WWT_Seminars-at-sy10.net: Open Source Webcast & iPod Giveaway]
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  42. 2007-09-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]
  43. 2007-09-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Mandriva Linux 2008 Installfest: November 17th, 2007]
  44. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  45. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  46. 2007-09-20 From: "Evan Inker" <eminker-at-gmail.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  47. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [telecomtom-at-vedatel.com: [Fwd: Re: [MLUG] Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]]]
  48. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Fwd: Re: [MLUG] Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]]
  49. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  50. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]
  51. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [aldem-at-westnet.com: Instalfest schedule]
  52. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Instalfest schedule
  53. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [johnmark-at-johnmark.org: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]
  54. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  55. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  56. 2007-09-20 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [aldem-at-westnet.com: Instalfest schedule]
  57. 2007-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [aldem-at-westnet.com: Instalfest schedule]
  58. 2007-09-21 MYC <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [aldem-at-westnet.com: Instalfest schedule]
  59. 2007-09-21 MYC <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Subject: [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [aldem-at-westnet.com: Instalfest schedule]]
  60. 2007-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  61. 2007-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
  62. 2007-09-23 MYC <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [aldem-at-westnet.com: Instalfest schedule]]
  63. 2007-09-23 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [aldem-at-westnet.com: Instalfest
  64. 2007-09-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]
  65. 2007-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meetings: Special Events
  66. 2007-09-24 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] were are you?
  67. 2007-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mrjoelkemp-at-gmail.com: Possible NYLXS Lecture or Workshop]
  68. 2007-09-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [chief-at-freesoftwaremagazine.com: FSM newsletter: FSM Newsletter 24 September 2007]
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  70. 2007-09-25 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] THURSDAY: NYLUG Presents: Jason Perlow on
  71. 2007-09-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting / Freedom-IT Meeting
  72. 2007-09-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] THURSDAY: NYLUG Presents: Jason Perlow on Sneek Peeks at Gutsy Gibbon and OpenSuSE 10.3]
  73. 2007-09-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rmills-at-searchedp.com: Senior Web Developer - 6 Month Right-To-Hire - Coral Springs, FL]
  74. 2007-09-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [legcalendar-at-council.nyc.ny.us: City Council Calendar for Monday, October 1 , 2007 - Sunday, October 7, 2007]
  75. 2007-09-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]
  76. 2007-09-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [dana.cizmas-at-RFBinder.com: Request for Foresight Linux project leader as guest speaker at your LUG]

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