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DATE 2007-09-19
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [rms@gnu.org: Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:22 -0400
From: Ruben Safir
To: David Kramer
Cc: discuss-at-blu.org
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8]
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 09:52:09PM -0400, David Kramer wrote:
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> >From: Richard Stallman
> >To: Ruben Safir
> >CC: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, rick-at-linuxmafia.com,
> > johnmark-at-johnmark.org, dmarti-at-nww.com, david-at-fetter.org,
> > dyfet-at-gnu.org
> >In-reply-to: <20070919020255.GA12295-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> (message from Ruben
> > Safir on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:02:55 -0400)
> >Subject: Re: Freedom-IT Winter 2007/8
> >Reply-to: rms-at-gnu.org
> >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:49:24 -0400
> >
> > The Winter 2007/8 Meeting of Freedom-IT will be scheduled for February
> > 2008, most
> > likely the 3rd or 4th Weekend.
> >
> >I suggest arranging that it not be at the same time as FOSDEM.
> >I am not sure when FOSDEM will be.
>
> Ruben, you are showing extremely bad manners, and not picking up on the
> polite hints others are giving you, so let me spell it out:
>
> Sending the same message over and over was bad. You say it was a
> mistake. Fine. Now you're forwarding other people's mail to this list,
> whom I doubt very much you asked permission from first, on the very same
> event. With no useful content.
>

Thanks for your advise. The addresses listed for Richard Stallman, Rick Moen, John Mark Walker, Don Marti, and
David Fetter are all published email addresses, although you are very correct in pointing out that NORMALLY it would
be bad edicate.

Secondly, this is not an advertisement. This is an organizing effort for a regional program
which is in your region. Freedom-IT is not a business looking for customers. It is a newly evolving
conference inside your region which will be looking for volunters, speakers and particpants, and yes, Lake Placid
is within the normal traveling area of Boston. In fact, that is why Lake Placid has been chosen because it is already
accessed by car for locals from Quebec, New York, Boston and the MidWest, making it a good neutral ground.

The second message by RMS made clear that there might be a conflict with another program. Input from people in
your area is vital, and welcome.

I'll forward this to the PR chair for further input.

Ruben Safir

> Another point on netiquette: The email you forwarded has other people's
> personal email addresses in it, which is bad form, as it opens them up
> for spamming. In the future, please strip those out.
>
> We now all know about the event. It takes place hundreds of miles from
> where our group is based. Advertising the event on the BLU list is much
> appreciated, and I'm sure there are a few people on it who would be
> interested in going, but please offer a mailing list or website
> interested parties can refer to, then trust that those people will use it.
>
> I am an officer in BLU, but I am asking you as a list member to be more
> considerate, not as an officer.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
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