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DATE 2006-11-29
FROM rc
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kids & Linux
I'd swear I heard someone say this before! ;)


http://reallylinux.com/docs/linuxforkids.shtml

Out of the mouth of babes: Linux is Better
by Mark Rais, Senior Editor ReallyLinux.com

It was hard to believe, but early Saturday morning my kids snuck
downstairs, grabbed my laptop out of the bag and started using it for
fun and games. What was more surprising was the fact that they chose my
laptop running Fedora, rather than the family PC running Windows with
all of the kids games and edutainment packages.

When I asked my son why he had snatched my laptop instead of using the
family PC, he replied without hesitation: "Because Linux is better."

After some more fact finding, I learned what was the underlying reason.
I had recently installed the latest K12ltsp.org release on the laptop.

This is a full fledged Fedora combining the extensive work of the LTSP
(linux terminal server project) as well as the added resources and
programs included for use by Kindergarten through 12th grade acedemics.
This release allows other PCs to run as terminals connected to a single
Linux server and has been used world-wide to setup Linux classrooms. I
must also give substantial credit to the teams of folks who write the
many tools and applications for the KDE desktop.

But frankly, my kids couldn't care less about these tidbits. Instead,
what really attracted them to the laptop were those countless unique
educational games and tools specifically tailored for their ages.

Preloaded to the Max
There are over fifty educational programs that come pre-installed. Also
included are over one hundred fifty popular programs and applications
such as OpenOffice.org, Firefox, Evolution and X-CD-Roast.

Just slip in the CDs, install the k12ltsp.org distro and in less than 45
minutes you're done! And all it took was some minor effort, primarily
for walking over to the kitchen to refill your cup while it all
automatically installed.

But kids using Linux has a lot to do with the simplicity of the
interfaces, how menu items and icons convey information, and the
categorization.

What my son so poignantly declared was also a testimony to these GUIs
available for Linux. Whether I had default boot set to Gnome or KDE, to
my kids, they were both completely understandable and useable. I know
this may shock the Linux purists, but to me this is a strong
confirmation that the GUIs are substantially easier to use than I had
even contemplated. Here was a five year old, traversing the directories,
finding applications and opening them without any hesitation. He had no
issue figuring out how to open and close screens, move them around, or
change their size. The tool bars, menus and icons were all intuitive to
these kids.

The Real Screaming
What caused the real screaming wasn't me asking for my laptop back so I
could get some work done. Instead, it was the shock of returning to
Windows. They went to the living room and ended up throwing fits. I
noticed that my son had more trouble trying to find and load his games
on the WindowsXP machine for several reasons.

The interface is far more cluttered for one. The interface get's
in-your-face as well.

Every ten seconds one of those damn useless taskbar "alerts" appears.
Then there's the one second lag time for opening start menu items, which
I found doesn't just irritate me, but also my kids!

In many ways the Linux interfaces proved easier and more versatile than
Windows, and not just for adults. It became readily apparent when my
kids were started screaming in frustration.

The final moans occurred when I told them they needed to go back to
using the family PC, because my laptop was for work. This resulted in a
revolution. When I finally reminded them that all of their games were
loaded on the family PC, they both responded with intensity: "we don't
want those, we like the little Tux!"

Apparently not only was Linux easier for them to load. Not only were
Gnome and KDE easier to traverse and simpler to use. Now they were
declaring the attraction to the Linux mascot! I guess I can understand,
looking at a cuddly Penguin certainly beats looking at the hard edged
corporate logos that fill most of the Windows desktop icons and graphics.

Applications Perfect for Kids
Tux paint had become a favorite. It was wisely designed for young kids
with an easy to learn tools and options that offered even a 5 year old a
lot more than just basic graphical skills.

I noticed that my kids were concentrating on another favorite called the
Gcompris educational suite, which comes with math, reading and
experience based activities that are interesting and instructive. The
kids love the puzzles that not only challenge the mind but offer
entertainment without the intensity you may find with similar commercial
software.

The Only Real Choice
In an effort to appease them, reduce the tantrums, and to get my laptop
back as a work tool, I ended up connecting the family PC to the network
and running it as a dumb terminal off the Linux Fedora LTSP laptop.

That's right, a full fledged Windows PC was now simply a network
extension of my Linux laptop. Now the kids get to use all of those Linux
based games and tools they love, without keeping me from my work! And as
peculiar as this may seem to some, they've not since asked for or cared
about any of their Windows programs. Instead, they continue to learn and
enjoy Linux -- "because its better."

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