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MESSAGE
DATE 2007-01-11
FROM Ron Guerin
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NY Linux Users Grp. 1/17 Mtg: Robert "r0ml" Lefkowitz on "Does Linux Make Software Frameworks Obsolete?"
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Wednesday, January 17th, 2006
6:30pm-8:00pm
Google
76 9th Ave., b/w 15th and 16th St.
4th Floor

** RSVP Closes at 2:30pm the day BEFORE meeting (sharp!) ***
You must R.S.V.P. for EVERY meeting at this time.
Register at http://rsvp.nylug.org/
Check in with photo ID at the lobby for badge.
Latecomers can sign in, but it means having to wait.

Robert "r0ml" Lefkowitz
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"Does Linux Make Software Frameworks Obsolete?"
Google, 76 9th Ave., 4th Floor. Between 15th and 16th Streets

** Please note important information about this meeting below **
******* This meeting is being held at Google, not at IBM *******

In a world where software is sold as a black box, it makes sense
that the stand-alone frameworks would evolve to allow developers
to more easily assemble larger systems by building with those
closed frameworks. This leads to software bloat as each
application includes numerous general frameworks with large
amounts of functionality un-needed by that particular
application. More frameworks = more bloat.

In a world where all the source code is available, is it not
easier and better to start from a "reference implementation"
of an application in a particular (or most closely related)
domain, and modify to suit?

In the Object-Oriented revolution of the late 80's / early 90's
this debate was framed as "white-box reuse" vs. "black-box
reuse". Now that Linux and Free Software are threatening world
domination, how does that change the structure of arguments on
both sides?

About r0ml
r0ml is an software architect and systems designer with over
thirty years of experience. For two decades, r0ml worked on
Wall Street, developing market data, trading, risk management,
and quantitative analysis systems. More recently, as chief
technical architect at AT&T Wireless, he drove the improvement
of their CRM, ERP, commission, and data warehousing systems.
Over the last several years, r0ml has become increasingly
interested in open source software strategy at large
enterprises, and is a frequent speaker on the topic.

Meeting Location
Please note that this meeting will be held at Google, 76 9th Ave,
4th floor, between 15th and 16th Streets, and not at IBM. This is
the old Port Authority Building, and takes up the entire block.
You want the entrance on 9th Ave.

Map
http://tighturl.com/u4

Free Refreshments!
Google is also graciously providing refreshments before the
meeting begins. For those of us here in the east who aren't used
to a "Google spread", you're in for quite a treat. "New Google
Cafeteria Crushes Competitors" Cafeterias" (New York Magazine)

Books!!!
Our friends at Prentice-Hall kindly provide us with review copies
of various new titles. One of these could be yours, all you have
to do is agree to review the book within a reasonable period of
time.

Swag (Give Away)
During/after the meeting... unusually terrific swag may be given
away.

Stammtisch
After the meeting ... Join us after the meeting around 8:15pm-9pm
for drinks and conversation at a location to be determined.

Please see our home page at http://www.nylug.org for the HTMLized
version of this announcement, our archives, and a lot of other good
stuff.

  1. 2007-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meeting Monday at the Brooklyn Marriott
  2. 2007-01-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Kryptonite falls to earth
  3. 2007-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Other stuff ...um not quite legal
  4. 2007-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making dvds with Free Software and other stuff
  5. 2007-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Report
  6. 2007-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Sealand for Sale
  7. 2007-01-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NY Linux Users Grp. 1/17 Mtg: Robert "r0ml" Lefkowitz on "Does Linux Make Software Frameworks Obsolete?"
  8. 2007-01-11 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Interesting Open Source
  9. 2007-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Wednesday In Midtown 6:30PM
  10. 2007-01-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [chief-at-freesoftwaremagazine.com: FSM newsletter: FSM Newsletter 15th of January 2007]
  11. 2007-01-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: E-Update for the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council (January 16, 2007).]
  12. 2007-01-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting TOMORROW In Midtown 6:30PM
  13. 2007-01-17 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting TOMORROW In Midtown 6:30PM
  14. 2007-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [newsletter-at-linuxjournal.com: Linux Journal Weekly Newsletter - January 17]
  15. 2007-01-18 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Massive Anti-war March Planned for January 27 in D.C.
  16. 2007-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [docs-newsletter-at-ssc.com: January 18]
  17. 2007-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] market place
  18. 2007-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [MyNYC-at-nyc.gov: City Council Calendar for Monday Jan. 22nd, 2007 - Sunday Jan. 28th, 2007]
  19. 2007-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [newsletter-at-linuxjournal.com: Off the Shelf - January 19]
  20. 2007-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Registration Open for Gelato ICE: Itanium(r) Conference &
  21. 2007-01-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Debugging Class on the net
  22. 2007-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  23. 2007-01-24 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  24. 2007-01-24 Matthew <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  25. 2007-01-24 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  26. 2007-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  27. 2007-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  28. 2007-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] stealing uranium
  29. 2007-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft itunes
  30. 2007-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft part 2 - itunes
  31. 2007-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest february 4th, 2006
  32. 2007-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Freedom-IT and Lake Placid
  33. 2007-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Freedom-IT and Lake Placid
  34. 2007-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Work
  35. 2007-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  36. 2007-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Log Cabins are now Copyrighted
  37. 2007-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Infringement on the Nets - Sue a 7 year old girl TODAY
  38. 2007-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] P2P trail with the RIAAA starts tomorrow here in NYC
  39. 2007-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting results and next Meeting
  40. 2007-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software in Brooklyn for a hospital
  41. 2007-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow - 6:30PM at the Brooklyn Marriot
  42. 2007-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow - 6:30PM at the Brooklyn Marriot
  43. 2007-01-31 Shoshana Rivka Safir <shani-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow - 6:30PM at the Brooklyn Marriot
  44. 2007-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [kpatrick-at-bladiant.com: Gowanus Houses Community Center Program]
  45. 2007-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest Sunday February 4 and Meeting Results
  46. 2007-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Gowanus Houses Community Center Program

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