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Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:19:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from mail.vnetworx.net (mail.vnetworx.net [50.116.48.152]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED78160876 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hayden (ool-944bc714.dyn.optonline.net [148.75.199.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ron-at-vnetworx.net) by mail.vnetworx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E3223C1342 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:19:55 -0400 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hangout-at-nylxs.com From: ron-at-vnetworx.net Message-ID: <2E7068CB-14D3-4766-B94D-FF5876F3CBF9-at-vnetworx.net> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP by generator.vnetworx.net Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] DKIM set ups X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0029357019==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout" --===============0029357019== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/23/2017 07:49 PM, ruben safir wrote: > If I understand correctly, someone sending email from an eternal MTA > with a foreign email address ends up with a signature from the foreign > MTA=2E What use is that? It is still an open relay=2E > This goes back to SPF where they decided to sell something that isn't an= =20 anti-spam measure as an anti-spam measure, presumably to manipulate=20 everyone into implementing it=2E DKIM is about authentication, not anti-spam=2E=C2=A0 It's not to stop open= =20 relays or drug spam or your crazy uncle's conspiracy theories=2E DKIM=20 allows you to ensure the message comes from someone in control of the=20 envelope sender address (iirc) and is genuinely the same as the one the=20 mail server passed to you, not that it isn't trying to sell you magic bean= s=2E - Ron --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/23/2017 07:49 PM, ruben safir wrote: > If I understand correctly, someone sending email from an eternal MTA<= br> > with a foreign email address ends up with a signature from the foreig= n > MTA=2E What use is that? It is still an open relay=2E > This goes back to SPF where they decided to sell something that isn't = an anti-spam measure as an anti-spam measure, presumably to manipulate everyone into implementing it=2E DKIM is about authentication, not anti-spam=2E=C2=A0 It's not to stop = open relays or drug spam or your crazy uncle's conspiracy theories=2E DKIM = allows you to ensure the message comes from someone in control of the envelope sender address (iirc) and is genuinely the same as the one the r> mail server passed to you, not that it isn't trying to sell you magic = beans=2E - Ron -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH-- --===============0029357019== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://www.nylxs.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout --===============0029357019==-- --===============0029357019== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/23/2017 07:49 PM, ruben safir wrote: > If I understand correctly, someone sending email from an eternal MTA > with a foreign email address ends up with a signature from the foreign > MTA=2E What use is that? It is still an open relay=2E > This goes back to SPF where they decided to sell something that isn't an= =20 anti-spam measure as an anti-spam measure, presumably to manipulate=20 everyone into implementing it=2E DKIM is about authentication, not anti-spam=2E=C2=A0 It's not to stop open= =20 relays or drug spam or your crazy uncle's conspiracy theories=2E DKIM=20 allows you to ensure the message comes from someone in control of the=20 envelope sender address (iirc) and is genuinely the same as the one the=20 mail server passed to you, not that it isn't trying to sell you magic bean= s=2E - Ron --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/23/2017 07:49 PM, ruben safir wrote: > If I understand correctly, someone sending email from an eternal MTA<= br> > with a foreign email address ends up with a signature from the foreig= n > MTA=2E What use is that? It is still an open relay=2E > This goes back to SPF where they decided to sell something that isn't = an anti-spam measure as an anti-spam measure, presumably to manipulate everyone into implementing it=2E DKIM is about authentication, not anti-spam=2E=C2=A0 It's not to stop = open relays or drug spam or your crazy uncle's conspiracy theories=2E DKIM = allows you to ensure the message comes from someone in control of the envelope sender address (iirc) and is genuinely the same as the one the r> mail server passed to you, not that it isn't trying to sell you magic = beans=2E - Ron -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------FYLPQM7QZG5MMR6CDS9NHYJ8DVSJAH-- --===============0029357019== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://www.nylxs.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout --===============0029357019==-- 2017-09-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: FW: DCAS IT Career Event 2017-09-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Arch without systemd and ending manjaro openrc 2017-09-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Arch without systemd and ending manjaro 2017-09-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] AI positions at Esty 2017-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] You are the product 2017-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free land and house 2017-09-04 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free land and house | | I suppose you are 2017-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Walter Becker died ... 2017-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Walter Becker died ... 2017-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Walter Becker died ... 2017-09-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Walter Becker died ... 2017-09-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 9-5 workdays mythos 2017-09-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Kickbacks in the education field 2017-09-05 From: "IEEE ComSoc Meetings" <noreply-at-comsoc.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] IEEE/IFIP NOMS'18 Submission Deadlines Extended 2017-09-05 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals 2017-09-03 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #319 - Scratching your itch 2017-09-06 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: FW: Examination Announcements 2017-09-06 From: "IEEE Communications Society" <noreply-at-comsoc.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Live Webinar: Addressing Direction Finding in 2017-09-05 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dart programming language 2017-09-06 merlyn-at-stonehenge.com (Randal L. 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