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MESSAGE
DATE 2023-08-11
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ms w11 shocker
from artix forum



Ex (and good friend) of mine who is totally non technical recently got a
new job which involved some home working and propriety software.
Including Zoom or Teams or similar (can't remember )

After some discussion we agreed that she'd need to start using Windows
and also upgrade her 10+ year old laptop. Even though she'd been using
Linux (KDE Neon) all this time she had no idea how it worked, It only
ever got an update when I rarely visited.

So she buys a cheap laptop with Win 11 pre-installed. As preparation for
helping her set it up I installed Win 11 in a VM and then reset it so I
could go through the process step by step with her.

While doing the first install, after the spyware nonsense, the first
wall I hit was the insistence that you have to use a Microsoft/Outlook
account to create a user account! No problem I thought I'll disconnect
the VM from the internet. Surely that will work?
No. I can't remember the error exactly but pretty sure it had the
audacity to say you had to have the internet to setup your computer.
Outrageous.

So I did some searching and found a possible solution, among others
which involved rescue disks and registry editing or escaping the setup
into a command prompt and issuing various commands (too technical for
her and I didn't want to mess up her brand new laptop), which I can't
believe worked.
Use no-at-thankyou.com, any password to log in. An error comes up
"Incorrect password used too many times" and windows lets you set up a
standard user account (This may have been closed by now?)

So now I help her over the phone (She's a four hour drive away) get to,
and through that point, success.

The plan had been I was going to verbally get her to download and run
some remote access access software on windows 11. She would start the
ssh server on her linux laptop (which thankfully was already set up but
not started by default) and I'd transfer all her data to the new laptop
by sftp. And also download and setup the software she needed for work.
Simple.

Well it should be. Turns out she didn't have a Win 11 Home install. She
had a Win 11 Home 'S' install which only lets you install from the
windows store. Bit of panic from her (understandably) thinking she's got
the wrong laptop.

Quick search and panic over. The "S" part can be removed. "Easily" the
page said. "Just click the windows store" they said. Click "Switch out
of S mode" they advised.

Except you need a Microsoft account to access the store! I could find no
way around this that again didn't involve rescue disks and registry
editing so I had to create a throwaway account and talk her through
adding it to her user account (all the while mirroring the process on my
VM so I could see what she saw, plus I don't know my way around windows).

That done we finally got control of the laptop and I got in and did what
needed to be done (and removed the microsoft account)!

Sorry for the long post but I suspect that was a rant that's been
waiting for a chance to get out :D
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