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A remarkable aspect of this debate is how Congress and the American people are asked to accept assurances of reform from the Federal Bureau of Investigations despite 204,000 previous violations of our civil rights (“The Wrong Way to Punish the FBI,” Review & Outlook, Aug. 5). FBI Director Christopher Wray claims that improved internal controls have reduced the probability of these violations. But without true accountability—actual penalties for those who failed to uphold their duty—it seems dubious that the FBI can be trusted. We shouldn’t accept the boilerplate “mistakes were made” explanation from the FBI and its allies. Absent real consequences for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuse, Republicans in Congress should return a small measure of civil rights and privacy to Americans by allowing Section 702 to expire. Mark Amidon Bremerton, Wash. Noting that Section 702 of FISA has been improperly used against Americans by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, your editorial warns Congress not to endanger the homeland by killing this statute in a fit of pique. But Congress has another choice. It can demand reforms in exchange for reauthorizing the statute. There is bipartisan cooperation on legislation to stop the wholesale purchase of data about Americans by government agencies. There is also cooperation to rein in other abuses by, for example, requiring a court order before the FBI can paw through billions of pieces of private information about Americans held by intelligence agencies as a result of dragnet searches. The current trends in abuse of privacy are alarming. Congress must take the opportunity to extract major reforms. Section 702 will fail to be reauthorized only if the champions of the intelligence community dig in, reject common-sense reforms and kill it by their intransigence. Bob Goodlatte Roanoke, Va. Mr. Goodlatte, a senior adviser to the Project for Privacy and Surveillance Accountability, was chairman of the House Judiciary Committee 2013-19. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout 2023-08-01 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software Supporter -- Issue 184, August 2023 2023-08-07 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #628 - Have you tried Perl v5.38? 2023-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New windowmaker is out 2023-08-09 Touro Graduate School of Technology <info.gst-at-touro.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming 3D Printing Workshop 2023-08-09 Touro Graduate School of Technology <info.gst-at-touro.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Teaching Transformed : AI and Computational 2023-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Physics 2023-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Edward Snowden On Artificial Intelligence & 2023-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ms w11 shocker 2023-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Section 702 an agregous sin 2023-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] CVS - Theives Profit 2023-08-14 From: "=?US-ASCII?Q?NYS_Department_of_Labor?=" <NYSDOL-at-info.labor.ny.gov> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?iso-8859-1?q?Attend_the_New_York_City_Jobs_a?= 2023-08-14 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #629 - Are we afraid of other 2023-08-16 Touro Graduate School of Technology <info.gst-at-touro.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Domestic Informational Session 2023-08-16 From: "Miriam Bastian, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Parents, domestic violence victims, 2023-08-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Parents, domestic violence victims, 2023-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Patent Trolls lobby for patent law changes to 2023-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Singing Klingons 2023-08-22 Touro Graduate School of Technology <info.gst-at-touro.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ITP Workshop : Introduction to Chat GPT for 2023-08-22 Touro Graduate School of Technology <info.gst-at-touro.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming 3D Printing Workshop 2023-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Good Newws for the Moth of Elul 2023-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Informational Message: Scholarships NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! 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