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Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2003-01-16
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision


>
> Meaning, what? That the copyright owner may have given it to them? That is
> their right.


MEANING I donate books and CD's to the library after I'm through with them
and I have the god given inalianable human right to do so.


>
> >
> > > It did not copy it, and it cannot make extra copies to loan out.
> >
> > Actually, if it's out of print, they can.
>
> In only limited circumstances, in which case, the publisher does not care,
> so no harm done.

They do it ALL the time, every day.


> >
> > AND THAT IS DEFENIFTELY WRONG.
>
> Wrong? It is the law.

The Law according to Garf maybe. I'm ripping my CD's right now...
quick dial 911 and call the cops!!!

My address is
1600 East 17th Street
Brooklyn, NY

Upstairs!

Call them quick!

>
> > Even Berman at the Berman P2P hearing in Washington DC admited that
> without out a DOUBT
> > that this is WRONG.
>
> I don't really care what "even Berman" had to say.

Berman is a lawyer and a Congressman representing the Disney Network. He
obviously knows SOMETHING you don't.

> Most people know
> intuitively that making copies of music and giving such copies away is
> clearly not right.
>

Like hell they do...

There is over 10 million downloads a day from Kaazar, everyone of them a voter.
Not even 20 years of MPAA lies and FBI warnings has convinced the public to
give up their property rights.



> >
> > You know it's wrong, we know it's wrong, and now you just unethically
> SHIFTED the premise of
> > your arguement from 'comercial exploitation' to an all out ban on
> Copying....
>
> First, I disagree that it is "wrong". Second, I never said anything about
> commercial exploitation,

Oh please, you did too... it's a standard troll tactic....

Now your in the kill file.

Argue with your shadow.


> which is NOT an element of copyright infringement.
> Finally, you have a funny interpretation of "ethical", which is not
> implicated here IMHO.
>
> > And that, is because your an imoral looney tune more hell bent and
> screwing around with peoples
> > heads than discusing the issues.
>
> Now there is an argument made by a mature, reasonable person that provides
> insight and wisdom in furtherance of this discussion. NOT!
>
> -Bodi
>
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  1. 2003-01-14 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Membership dues
  2. 2003-01-30 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Web Work needed [akbar-at-pionerd.org]
  3. 2003-01-31 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] SCSI cd drive (anybody want one)
  4. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  5. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  6. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  7. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  8. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  9. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  10. 2003-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  11. 2003-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  12. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  13. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  14. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  15. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  16. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  17. 2003-01-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft to release code
  18. 2003-01-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Membership dues
  19. 2003-01-25 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS annual dinner

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