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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-01-16
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision


On 2003.01.16 16:23 Robert F. Bodi wrote:
> First, you BORROW it.

Which means nothing. They can GIVE it to you also.


> You don't "get one". And the library PAID for the
> CD.

Actually, NOT ALWAYS

> It did not copy it, and it cannot make extra copies to loan out.

Actually, if it's out of print, they can.


> It
> must purchase every single copy.

That is wring

If you make copies of that CD, even
> ripping MP3's, you are violating the law.


AND THAT IS DEFENIFTELY WRONG.


Even Berman at the Berman P2P hearing in Washington DC admited that without out a DOUBT
that this is WRONG.

You know it's wrong, we know it's wrong, and now you just unethically SHIFTED the premise of
your arguement from 'comercial exploitation' to an all out ban on Copying....

And that, is because your an imoral looney tune more hell bent and screwing around with peoples
heads than discusing the issues.

Ruben




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  1. 2003-01-14 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Membership dues
  2. 2003-01-30 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Web Work needed [akbar-at-pionerd.org]
  3. 2003-01-31 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] SCSI cd drive (anybody want one)
  4. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  5. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  6. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  7. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  8. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  9. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  10. 2003-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  11. 2003-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  12. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  13. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  14. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  15. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  16. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  17. 2003-01-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft to release code
  18. 2003-01-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Membership dues
  19. 2003-01-25 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS annual dinner

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