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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-01-16
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Jan 16 18:07:48 2003
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From: Ruben I Safir
To: "Matthew T . Russotto"
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Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
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On 2003.01.16 17:23 Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
>
> On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> >
> > You know it's wrong, we know it's wrong, and now you just unethically
> > SHIFTED the premise of
> > your arguement from 'comercial exploitation' to an all out ban on
> > Copying....
>
> Copyright law IS an all-out ban on copying.

BOINK

Your wrong. And no matter how many times you say it, your STILL WRONG.
Nobody has premptive right over your private property. Email Yonchai Benkler for
a proper legal breifing.

Know your rights.... all three of them.


Ruben
President
http://fairuse.nylxs.com/








Copying, public display
> (in some cases), public performance, broadcast, etc. It is so
> restrictive that exceptions had to be added, first by the courts
> (giving lie to the idea that copyright is a domain restricted to
> Congress) and later by Congress, just to allow normal activities like
> using a computer program (ephemeral copies), a video game (public
> display/performance), and various other items. It didn't start out
> that way (in the US), but that's how it has ended up. And at the same
> time its term has been increased and its scope widened.
>
> My quote of your message above is a violation of your copyright.
> Maybe, anyway. It could be fair use, but that's a mighty thin pillar
> to base all normal communications by Usenet and email on.
>
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