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DATE 2005-11-20
FROM Mark Simko
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Fwd) Fwd: Review of Computer Vote Rigging: Video
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From: Mark Simko
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Fwd) Fwd: Review of Computer Vote Rigging: Video
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Moron!

It is not about liberal & conservatives. Nor Republican & Democrat.

It is about the need for open source software in our voting machine
systems. Without that, liberty and the will of the people are too easily
co-opted.

It has been the radical conservatives that have had the shrill over-
reactions, and have been doing so for many years. Yet they are the
ones that accuse others of the very same unacceptable behavior.

Your reaction is uncivilized, and unintelligent. I doubt your thought
processes are any more organized.


On 20 Nov 2005 at 21:06, Steve Milo wrote:

> I'm also not surprised how much you of a puppet you are for the psycho
> liberal communists.
>
> Dude, you *need* to get a life. No one cares about your stupid hobby.
>
> You found some freedom in the United States and decided that you can
> hijack free speech in the name of your own personal agenda.
>
> You are a bigger puppet than your left-wing buddies think the
> right-wing mouth pieces are.
>
> Its the same crap from the left 'democratic votes suppressed,
> republican senator elected as a result. Oh my f*-at-king gawd, the sky
> is falling too!'
>
> All the democrats and left-wing have been doing is 'shrill, shrill,
> shrill, shrill, shrill.' Go read some history books, your noise is
> nothing new, you are not unique and you are replaceable.
>
> Steve M
>
>
> > Fwd: Review
> > of Computer Vote Rigging: Video
> >
> > is anyone surprised?
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >  
> >
> > Computer programmer Clinton Curtis testified at the December 13th,
> > 2004 Congressional hearing in Columbus, Ohio naming Republican
> > Congressman Tom Feeney as the person who hired him to prepare
> > vote-rigging software.
> >
> >  
> >
> > The programmer claims that he designed and built a "vote rigging"
> > software program at the behest of then Florida Congressman, now U.S.
> > Congressman, Republican Tom Feeney of Florida's 24th Congressional
> > District.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Clint Curtis, 46, claims that he built the software for Feeney in
> > 2000 while working at a sofware design and engineering company in
> > Oviedo, Florida (Feeney's home district).
> >
> > Curtis, in his affidavit, says that as technical advisor and
> > programmer at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI) he was present at
> > company
> > meetings where Feeney was present "on at least a dozen
> > occasions".
> >
> >  
> >
> > Feeney, who had run in 1994 as Jeb Bush's running-mate in his
> > initial
> > unsuccessful bid for Florida Governor, was serving as both
> > corporate
> > counsel and registered lobbyist for YEI during the period that
> > Curtis worked at the company.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Feeney was also concurrently serving as a Florida state
> > congressman
> > while performing those services for YEI. Feeney would eventually
> > become Speaker of the Florida House before being elected to the U.S.
> > House of Representatives in 2002. He is now a member of the U.S.
> > House Judiciary Committee.
> >
> >  
> >
> > At an October 2000 meeting with Feeney, according to the affidavit
> > and BRAD BLOG interviews with Curtis over the past three days,
> > Feeney inquired whether the company could build a "vote fraud
> > software prototype".
> >
> >  
> >
> > At least three YEI employees are said to have been present at that
> > meeting; Curtis, company owner, Mrs. Li Woan Yang, and her executive
> > secretary, Mike Cohen. Two other YEI employees may have come in and
> > out at different points of the meeting according to Curtis.
> >
> > Curtis says that Feeney "was very specific in the design and
> > specifications required for this program."
> >
> >  
> >
> > "He detailed, in his own words, that; (a) the program needed to be
> > touch-screen capable (b) the user should be able to trigger the
> > program without any additional equipment (c) the programming to
> > accomplish this needed to stay hidden even if the source code was
> > inspected."
> >
> >  
> >
> > Though there was no problem with the first two requirements, Curtis
> > explained to the Congressman that it would be "virtually impossible
> > to hide such code written to change the voting results if anyone is
> > able to review the uncompiled source code"
> >
> >  
> >
> > Nonetheless, he was asked at the meeting by Mrs. Yang to build the
> > prototype anyway.
> >
> > Curtis, "a life-long Republican" at the time, claims that it was his
> > initial belief that Feeney's interest was in trying to stop
> > Democrats from using "such a program to steal an election". Curtis
> > had assumed that Feeney, "wanted to be able to detect and prevent
> > that if it occurred."
> >
> > Upon delivery of the software design and documentation on CD to Mrs.
> > Yang, Curtis again explained to her that it would be impossible to
> > hide routines created to manipulate the vote if anybody would be
> > able to inspect the precompiled source code.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Mrs. Yang then told him, "You donÂ’t understand, in order to get the
> > contract we have to hide the manipulation in the source code. This
> > program is needed to control the vote in South Florida."
> >
> >  
> >
> > Mrs. Yang then took the CD containing the software from Curtis,
> > reportedly for later delivery to Feeney.
> >
> >  
> >
> > In other meetings with Feeny prior to the 2000 elections, it became
> > clear to Curtis that Feeney had plans to suppress the vote in strong
> > Democratic precincts. In the affidavit, Curtis claims that in those
> > meetings Feeney had "bragged that he had already implemented
> > 'exclusion lists' to reduce the 'black vote'." Feeney also mentioned
> > that "proper placement of police patrols could further reduce the
> > black vote by as much as 25%."
> >
> >  
> >
> > Curtis says that he submitted his resignation to YEI effective
> > December 2000, but stayed on until they had found someone to
> > replace
> > him in February of 2001.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------- End of forwarded message -------
> > Mark Simko
> > msimko-at-optonline.net
> >
> >
>


Mark Simko
msimko-at-optonline.net

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