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DATE 2008-06-08
FROM Michael L Richardson
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cellphone DO kill ....
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They have been saying this since the fist cell phones. I don't know if
any studies were ever done.

Ruben Safir wrote:
> June 3, 2008 Well Experts Revive Debate Over Cellphones and Cancer By
> TARA PARKER-POPE
>
> What do brain surgeons know about cellphone safety that the rest of
> us don’t?
>
> Last week, three prominent neurosurgeons told the CNN interviewer Larry
> King that they did not hold cellphones next to their ears. “I think
> the safe practice,” said Dr. Keith Black, a surgeon at Cedars-Sinai
> Medical Center in Los Angeles, “is to use an earpiece so you keep the
> microwave antenna away from your brain.”
>
> Dr. Vini Khurana, an associate professor of neurosurgery at the Australian
> National University who is an outspoken critic of cellphones, said:
> “I use it on the speaker-phone mode. I do not hold it to my ear.” And
> CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, a neurosurgeon at
> Emory University Hospital, said that like Dr. Black he used an earpiece.
>
> Along with Senator Edward M. Kennedy’s recent diagnosis of a glioma,
> a type of tumor that critics have long associated with cellphone use,
> the doctors’ remarks have helped reignite a long-simmering debate
> about cellphones and cancer.
>
> That supposed link has been largely dismissed by many experts, including
> the American Cancer Society. The theory that cellphones cause brain tumors
> “defies credulity,” said Dr. Eugene Flamm, chairman of neurosurgery
> at Montefiore Medical Center.
>
> According to the Food and Drug Administration, three large epidemiology
> studies since 2000 have shown no harmful effects. CTIA — the Wireless
> Association, the leading industry trade group, said in a statement,
> “The overwhelming majority of studies that have been published in
> scientific journals around the globe show that wireless phones do not
> pose a health risk.”
>
> The F.D.A. notes, however, that the average period of phone use in the
> studies it cites was about three years, so the research doesn’t answer
> questions about long-term exposures. Critics say many studies are flawed
> for that reason, and also because they do not distinguish between casual
> and heavy use.
>
> Cellphones emit non-ionizing radiation, waves of energy that are too
> weak to break chemical bonds or to set off the DNA damage known to cause
> cancer. There is no known biological mechanism to explain how non-ionizing
> radiation might lead to cancer.
>
> But researchers who have raised concerns say that just because science
> can’t explain the mechanism doesn’t mean one doesn’t exist. Concerns
> have focused on the heat generated by cellphones and the fact that the
> radio frequencies are absorbed mostly by the head and neck. In recent
> studies that suggest a risk, the tumors tend to occur on the same side
> of the head where the patient typically holds the phone.
>
> Like most research on the subject, the studies are observational, showing
> only an association between cellphone use and cancer, not a causal
> relationship. The most important of these studies is called Interphone,
> a vast research effort in 13 countries, including Canada, Israel and
> several in Europe.
>
> Some of the research suggests a link between cellphone use and three
> types of tumors: glioma; cancer of the parotid, a salivary gland near
> the ear; and acoustic neuroma, a tumor that essentially occurs where the
> ear meets the brain. All these cancers are rare, so even if cellphone
> use does increase risk, the risk is still very low.
>
> Last year, The American Journal of Epidemiology published data from Israel
> finding a 58 percent higher risk of parotid gland tumors among heavy
> cellphone users. Also last year, a Swedish analysis of 16 studies in the
> journal Occupational and Environmental Medicine showed a doubling of risk
> for acoustic neuroma and glioma after 10 years of heavy cellphone use.
>
> “What we’re seeing is suggestions in epidemiological studies that
> have looked at people using phones for 10 or more years,” says Louis
> Slesin, editor of Microwave News, an industry publication that tracks
> the research. “There are some very disconcerting findings that suggest
> a problem, although it’s much too early to reach a conclusive view.”
>
> Some doctors say the real concern is not older cellphone users, who
> began using phones as adults, but children who are beginning to use
> phones today and face a lifetime of exposure.
>
> “More and more kids are using cellphones,” said Dr. Paul J. Rosch,
> clinical professor of medicine and psychiatry at New York Medical
> College. “They may be much more affected. Their brains are growing
> rapidly, and their skulls are thinner.”
>
> For people who are concerned about any possible risk, a simple solution
> is to use a headset. Of course, that option isn’t always convenient,
> and some critics have raised worries about wireless devices like the
> Bluetooth that essentially place a transmitter in the ear.
>
> The fear is that even if the individual risk of using a cellphone is low,
> with three billion users worldwide, even a minuscule risk would translate
> into a major public health concern.
>
> “We cannot say with any certainty that cellphones are either safe or not
> safe,” Dr. Black said on CNN. “My concern is that with the widespread
> use of cellphones, the worst scenario would be that we get the definitive
> study 10 years from now, and we find out there is a correlation.”
>
> well-at-nytimes.com
>
> -- http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff http://www.nylxs.com -
> Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
> Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world -
> RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS -
> RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers
> to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in
> our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
> damned.< You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and
> technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in
> Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>
> © Copyright for the Digital Millennium
>

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